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Title: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on November 29, 2020, 08:32:22 AM
Hi All,

As you may know, the current ABIv0 system is based on codebase from end of 2016. Overlast 4 years there have been a number of improvements made in AROS mainline which has never been made available to users.

I started working on updating the ABIv0 code base, but for this to succeed I will need your help with testing. Below you will find two ISOs: Testing and Reference. Download the Testing ISO and try it on your system. Look for any regressions (booting, native graphics, usb support, audio support, network support, etc). In case you find something that you think is broken, please download the Reference ISO and test there as well. If something works on Reference ISO but does not work on Testing ISO, please post in this thread with description of problem and your hardware.

Native
Referencehttps://axrt.org/download/aros/v0/AROS-20161228-1-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip
Testinghttps://axrt.org/download/aros/v0/AROS-20170402-4-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

Linux-Hosted
ReferenceN/A
Testinghttps://axrt.org/download/aros/v0/AROS-20170402-3-linux-i386-system.tar.bz2

Windows-Hosted
ReferenceN/A
Testinghttps://axrt.org/download/aros/v0/AROS-20170402-3-mingw32-i386-system.tar.bz2

Contrib Archive
ReferenceN/A
Testinghttps://axrt.org/download/aros/v0/AROS-20170402-3-any-i386-contrib.tar.bz2


Bugtracker: https://github.com/deadw00d/AROS/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+project%3Adeadw00d%2FAROS%2F3 (https://github.com/deadw00d/AROS/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+project%3Adeadw00d%2FAROS%2F3)

Note on schedules: If you look into the naming of .zip file you will see two components, for example 20170402-1

20170402 describes the master code base date on which the specific ABIv0 build is based on. I expect to upgrade the code base every 1-2 months
1 describes the revision of ABIv0 build on the same master code base. This mostly changes when bug fixes are introduced. I expect to have new revision every 1-2 weeks.

Quote
AROS ABIv0 20170402 changes:

  Functionalities:
    Align naming of graphic drivers and make them visible in SysExplorer (Kalamatee)
    Query graphics driver for 3D subdriver (Kalamatee)
    C library improvements (Mazze, Kalamatee)
    Kernel ACPI support (Kalamatee)
    SysMon listing tasks better (Kalamatee)
    Kernel IO-APIC support (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Kernel interrupt support (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Kernel SMP support (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Kernel shutdown/reboot support (Kalamatee)
    Kernel spinlock support (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Public locking mechanism support (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Kernel CPU cores control (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    processor.resource improvements (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    SMP-enabled Message Port handling (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Protect access to Exec resources (Kalamatee)
    Better measurement of CPU usage (Schulz)
    SysMon listing CPU usage better (Kalamatee)
    Graph.mcc (Kalamatee)
    picture.datatype DTM_Write support (Mazze)
    vusbhci.device (DizzyOfCRN)
    Kernel MSI interrupt support (Kalamatee)
    List.mui improvements (Kalamatee)
    ACPI button driver (Kalamatee)
    PCI driver IRQ routing table (Kalamatee, Schulz, Neil)
    pcx.datatype (Mazze)
    targa.datatype (Mazze)

  64-bit support:
    misc fixes (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    ahi.device, ac97.audio, hdudio.audio 64-bit support (Kalamatee)
    pciusb.device 64-bit support (Kalamatee)
    ata.device 64-bit support (Schulz)

  Updates:
    Flexcat 2.18 (Mazze)
    libz 1.2.11 (Mazze)
    libjpeg 9b (Mazze)
    libpng 1.6.28 (Mazze)
    AROS build system (Kalamatee)
    Icons (Paolone)
    GCC-6.3.0 (patch file) (Kalamatee)
    libmikmod 3.3.10 (Mazze)
    libspeex 1.2.0 (Mazze)
    libflac 1.3.2 (Mazze)
    Text2PDF (Mazze)
    Dt2Thumb 1.1 (Mazze)
    CDXLPlay 1.4 (Mazze)
    PlayCCDA 1.6 (Mazze)
 
  Fixes:
    Corrected datatype descriptors (Neil, Mazze)
    VGA driver (Kalamatee, Neil)
    Documentation (Neil, Kalamatee)
    X11 driver (deadwood)
    MUI (o1i, Kalamatee)
    Shell commands (Neil, Kalamatee, Mazze, Schulz)
    dos.library (Kalamatee)
    C:Decoration (Kalamatee)
    Kernel (Kalamatee)
    Catalogs (polluks, mmartinka, Kalamatee)
    Mesa (Kalamatee, Neil)
    emul-handler (Neil)
    console.device (Schulz)
    Intuition (Schulz, Neil)
    Preferences (Neil, balaton)
    kms.library (Kalamatee)
    pciusb.device (Schulz)
    C library (deadwood)
    Kernel ACPI support (Neil)
    Kernel interrupt support (Neil)
    PCI driver (Neil)
    Kernel IO-APIC support (Neil)
    atheros5000.device (Neil)
    Kernel shutdown/reboot support (Neil)
    Windows-hosted booting (deadwood)
    SDL-mixer (Neil)
    hdaudio.audio (deadwood)

Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on November 29, 2020, 09:33:28 AM
ok deadwood :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on November 29, 2020, 10:04:59 AM
ok i downloaded the iso testing

boot works fine vesa mode because my nvidia 9400 do not works in native mode but also with alt-abiv0
sounds ok hdaudio mode but only when program used, if runnign ahiprefs the sound is distort
network do not works with atheros device the sistem going to freeze "illegall instruction" by the driver
the progam running fine
usb works

the reference iso

works all fine vesa mode
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on November 29, 2020, 10:09:23 AM
Thanks salvo.

Does atheros.device work correctly with Reference ISO?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on November 29, 2020, 10:19:29 AM
yes :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on November 29, 2020, 10:25:05 AM
Thanks for the tests. I will look into atheros problem.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on November 29, 2020, 10:30:08 AM
ok deadwod ;)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: mmartinka on November 29, 2020, 02:39:02 PM
Boot in the Virtual Box 5.0.40
Reference CD boot OK
Test CD no boot (attach picture)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: ntromans on November 29, 2020, 05:33:58 PM
Great news! I'll download those tomorrow and try on my systems.

Cheers,
Nigel.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on November 30, 2020, 02:07:30 AM
Boot in the Virtual Box 5.0.40
Reference CD boot OK
Test CD no boot (attach picture)

Thanks - can you try with "noacpi" grub command line? (press 'e' to edit on grub screen, then 'ctrl-x' to continue booting)

I'm using VBox 6.1 and there is boots correctly.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: paolone on November 30, 2020, 04:37:52 AM
Quote
Referencehttps://axrt.org/download/aros/v0/AROS-20161228-1-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip
Testinghttps://axrt.org/download/aros/v0/AROS-20170402-1-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip


Ok, so far I could test it on VMware Player 15 and


- booted fine both with VESA and Native driver
- sound is garbled (sb128.audio) at 44.1 KHz HIFi stereo and ++.
- I could power off the machine via the ACPI function
- VMware SVGA driver seems to work pretty well


I must integrate files into Icaros Desktop to see if there are noticeable regressions. So this will require some more time.


In order to save time and efforts, are you planning to release another ISO in the next few days? If not, I will proceed with integrating files into current build of Icaros Desktop and let icaros beta testers to test it, along with newer features I added in the latest weeks.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on November 30, 2020, 05:22:35 AM
Ok, so far I could test it on VMware Player 15 and


- booted fine both with VESA and Native driver
- sound is garbled (sb128.audio) at 44.1 KHz HIFi stereo and ++.
- I could power off the machine via the ACPI function
- VMware SVGA driver seems to work pretty well

Thanks, noted about audion problems.


In order to save time and efforts, are you planning to release another ISO in the next few days? If not, I will proceed with integrating files into current build of Icaros Desktop and let icaros beta testers to test it, along with newer features I added in the latest weeks.

Please see the first post. I updated it with explanation of schedules.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: paolone on November 30, 2020, 05:28:20 AM
@deadwood


Ok, thank you for the explanation. I'm proceeding with integration. Kind regards
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: paolone on November 30, 2020, 06:48:18 AM
While integrating AROS system files I noticed two differences:


- tool "delete" and its icon in system/wanderer/tools are not present
- smartcan is not present in wbstartup



Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on November 30, 2020, 07:14:00 AM
perhaps they are no longer used :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: paolone on November 30, 2020, 07:17:16 AM
Ok, I tried integrating ISO files into Icaros Desktop, but it doesn't boot no matter if I add noacpi option or I choose a VESA mode, or VGA.


VMware Player 15. Your ISO alone, as I said, boots correctly.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on November 30, 2020, 07:31:25 AM
now i try with a native deadwood iso boot :-\
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on November 30, 2020, 07:43:47 AM
ok right works fine
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on November 30, 2020, 08:13:18 AM
I noticed that the bug on the atheros device persists
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on November 30, 2020, 08:15:29 AM
While integrating AROS system files I noticed two differences:


- tool "delete" and its icon in system/wanderer/tools are not present
- smartcan is not present in wbstartup

Noted down for invastigation
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on November 30, 2020, 08:20:55 AM
Ok, I tried integrating ISO files into Icaros Desktop, but it doesn't boot no matter if I add noacpi option or I choose a VESA mode, or VGA.


VMware Player 15. Your ISO alone, as I said, boots correctly.

What if you delete SYS:Devs/Monitors/Compositor?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: paolone on November 30, 2020, 08:23:43 AM
Ok, I tried integrating ISO files into Icaros Desktop, but it doesn't boot no matter if I add noacpi option or I choose a VESA mode, or VGA.


VMware Player 15. Your ISO alone, as I said, boots correctly.

What if you delete SYS:Devs/Monitors/Compositor?


I removed all .hids in Devs/Drivers that are not present anymore (graphics.hidd, sm502.hidd and another one I don't remember), and the distro boots. But for now I kept compositor in monitors.


In a few words, what does composition do in monitors? is it safe to remove it considering that I have to keep also linux/windows hosted modes alive?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on November 30, 2020, 08:29:50 AM
Ok, I tried integrating ISO files into Icaros Desktop, but it doesn't boot no matter if I add noacpi option or I choose a VESA mode, or VGA.


VMware Player 15. Your ISO alone, as I said, boots correctly.

What if you delete SYS:Devs/Monitors/Compositor?


I removed all .hids in Devs/Drivers that are not present anymore (graphics.hidd, sm502.hidd and another one I don't remember), and the distro boots. But for now I kept compositor in monitors.


In a few words, what does composition do in monitors? is it safe to remove it considering that I have to keep also linux/windows hosted modes alive?

Yea, some hidds changes (they "internal" anyhow), so that is why you had problems I guess.

Compositor is the things that allows "screen dragging" (and some other stuff). Keep it if the problem has been solved.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: paolone on November 30, 2020, 09:10:23 AM
Yes, the native issue has been solved. However, the internal changes broken Windows hosted mode.


Not a great issue, if only I hadn't been working on windows hosted mode for the last three months, to improve is useability.


So, either I give up with Windows Hosted, and it would be very sad to me, or also Win32 and Linux hosted AROS should be recompiled as well, and maybe the issue disappears.


But let's face issues step by step...



Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on November 30, 2020, 09:27:40 AM
Yes, the native issue has been solved. However, the internal changes broken Windows hosted mode.


Not a great issue, if only I hadn't been working on windows hosted mode for the last three months, to improve is useability.


So, either I give up with Windows Hosted, and it would be very sad to me, or also Win32 and Linux hosted AROS should be recompiled as well, and maybe the issue disappears.


But let's face issues step by step...

Isn't it the same case of "stalled" hidds?
I have linux-hosted compiled as well, I will see if I can compile windows-hosted.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: paolone on November 30, 2020, 10:02:44 AM

Isn't it the same case of "stalled" hidds?

I have linux-hosted compiled as well, I will see if I can compile windows-hosted.


1. I have already tried restoring the missing hidds. The best result so far is the error message I've attached before.


2. Great! I will test 'em as well.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 01, 2020, 06:52:59 AM
always discussing the native mode when I do a reset to restart the system everything freezes and an imput error message appears
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: paolone on December 01, 2020, 11:24:19 AM
...but it's great to see Icaros shutting down the virtual machine, instead of asking me to turn it off manually! :-)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Devlin on December 03, 2020, 11:25:10 AM
I'm running this on hardware and besides one issue regarding ACPI/Power Off(which deadwood knows about courtesy of the fantastic* Amiga discord) the Testing ISO from first post has been fantastic.

*I run the discord so i'm biased :3
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 03, 2020, 12:51:51 PM
@All

Can you test USB support? I'm getting reports that on hardware having USB3 chipsets, USB pen drivers or other USB hardware is not working properly.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 03, 2020, 02:52:58 PM
i don't have a usb 3 system :-\
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 03, 2020, 03:50:39 PM
AROS-20170402-1-pc-i386-boot-iso ( VirtualBox 6.1.4 )

Code: [Select]
Environment:
----------------------------------
VirtualBox 6.1.4 r136177 (Qt5.6.2)
RAM:              1024MB, 1 CPU, Nested Paging on
VideoRAM:         7MB
Audio driver:     Windows DirectSound
Audio controller: ICH AC97
Audio output on,  Audio input on
Network adapter:  On, NAT
USB:              On, UBS 2.0 (OHCI + EHCI)

AROS Live CD:Demos

no icons

AROS Live CD:Prefs/AHI

Total slowdown system after click "Play a test sound" (no sound)

Code: [Select]
Mode ID  : 0x0039004
Recording: Nope
Driver:    Devs:/AHI/ac97.audio
Version:   ac97.audio 6.6 (22.03.2017)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d1PcJTfB/TEST-AROS-AHI.png)

AROS Live CD:Prefs/ScreenMode

Don't work "Test" button with update screen. In requester:

Code: [Select]
Intuition is attempting to reset the screen,
please close all windows except Wanderer's ones

Pressing the "Retry" button does nothing.

AROS Live CD:Prefs/Trident

Code: [Select]
        | poseidon.library | Root hub has been enumerated
Failure | poseidon.library | Opening pciusb.device unit 2 failed device/eunit failed to open (-1)
Error   | poseidon.library | Failed to load config from 'ENVARC:Sys/poseidon.prefs'!
        | poseidon.library | PoPo kick ass.
Error   | poseidon.library | Failed to load config from 'ENV:Sys/poseidon.prefs'!
Error   | poseidon.library | Failed to load config from 'ENVARC:Sys/poseidon.prefs'!

When you click the "Save" button get an error:
Code: [Select]
Error   | poseidon.library | Couldn't save config.
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4GXxBT2/TEST-AROS-Trident.png)

AROS Live CD:Utilities/Help

Click "Commands" / Click any Commands (Ask for example -> zzz

(https://i.postimg.cc/xTQ3DT1S/TEST-AROS-Help.png)

--- After installation ---

Wanderer / Shut down... / Power Off - work
Wanderer / Shut down... / Restart Computer - work
Wanderer / Shut down... / Restart AROS - don't work, black screen

AROS:System/Format

The wrong size of CD2 is 150K capacity
The coreect size of DH0 is 4093M capacity

(https://i.postimg.cc/V6j0DnM0/TEST-AROS-CD.png)

AROS:System/SysMon

Processors tab - "0 MHz" written in field to the right of "Processor#1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU@2.80GHz"

(https://i.postimg.cc/5NG9QjYh/TEST-AROS-0-MHZ.png)

System tab - Empty fields in Video Size and Video Free (Video Memory and GART Aperture)

(https://i.postimg.cc/c1zGX2xY/TEST-AROS-Video.png)

AROS:Tools/BoingIconBar

After starting the bar and hovering over the icon (Shell for example), this icon sometimes jumps on top of itself.

AROS:Tools/ShowConfig

Nothing happens, app doesn't start, no show config

AROS:Tools/SysExplorer

RMB > Menu "Project / Properties" - no properties
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 03, 2020, 04:33:08 PM
TEST USB 1.0
(https://i.postimg.cc/c132sH79/TEST-AROS-USB1.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rFfw9Qdt/TEST-AROS-USB1-Controllers.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3rB8KnFb/TEST-AROS-USB1-Devices.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/J4D2Th0c/TEST-AROS-USB1-Classes.png)

TEST USB 2.0
(https://i.postimg.cc/hGP85CMW/TEST-AROS-USB2.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/25wvd4fc/TEST-AROS-USB2-Controllers.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/sXmc2kX2/TEST-AROS-USB2-Devices.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/NGyDtztQ/TEST-AROS-USB2-Classes.png)

TEST USB 3.0
(https://i.postimg.cc/t7Qtvpv2/TEST-AROS-USB3.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3NpbxLPf/TEST-AROS-USB3-Controllers.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jgcFYbY/TEST-AROS-USB3-Devices.png)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: cavemann on December 03, 2020, 05:35:17 PM
Hi deadwood

I've noticed that the DejuVu fonts in the fonts:truetype drawer seem to be missing.
They're on the reference iso.
 
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 04, 2020, 12:22:38 PM
@caveman

Is this a problem for some software? DejaVu fonts were moved to contrib repository, so they are still available in full build, but no longer available in core ISO build.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 04, 2020, 12:24:46 PM
TEST USB 1.0

TEST USB 2.0

TEST USB 3.0

Thanks. I also confirmed that behavious under VBox. The question is how wide-spread this behaviour is under real hardware.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 04, 2020, 12:26:03 PM
AROS-20170402-1-pc-i386-boot-iso


Are the problems you are describing specific to the Test ISO or are they also present in Reference ISO?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 04, 2020, 02:21:59 PM
Thanks. I also confirmed that behavious under VBox. The question is how wide-spread this behaviour is under real hardware.
I'm afraid it's a matter of philosophy) For example, the sound doesn't work for me in the same VMWare Player and VBox.
Can one of these programs be considered a benchmark? I don't know, but they represent a fairly average PC.
In addition, we can say that the ICH97 support is broken in the VBox relatively AROS drivers (or vice versa).
However i use an external usb sound card..

Using the hackintosh as an example, I can say that 95% of hackintosh users cannot use the built-in sound chips and PCI sound cards. Instead, they use external sound cards that always work. Only a small number of sound cards that were not supported by Apple work in macOS X, these are exactly the same cards for which the drivers were collected in AROS, in the first place. It's drivers for which there are sources, documentation or a reverse, like SB128, ESI JULI@, etc. USB audio in the Hackintosh world is the universal answer to the question: how do I get sound? In conditions of emulation of usb sound also becomes more important than usb flash. Because data can also be transferred over the network, by connecting a device or disk image. Non-working sound simply hangs up all programs that should somehow sound and does not allow anyone to port / write programs that work with sound.

Are the problems you are describing specific to the Test ISO or are they also present in Reference ISO?
I'm don't tested Reference ISO.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: cavemann on December 04, 2020, 04:49:13 PM
@caveman

Is this a problem for some software? DejaVu fonts were moved to contrib repository, so they are still available in full build, but no longer available in core ISO build.

Okay I don't have to rebuild anything, great  8)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 04, 2020, 07:25:23 PM
I had tried a usb stick in native mode both in iso testing and reference
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 05, 2020, 01:19:32 AM
FYI: I added a link to GitHub bugtracker to first post.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 05, 2020, 05:53:21 AM
thank you deadwood :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 05, 2020, 06:36:30 PM
Integrated my AROS One x86 with "AROS-20170402-1-pc-i386-boot-iso", the system started without problems from VMware, the DVD in Live works well, updated also some icons created by me, in the next days I will try to install and test the various applications, thanks Deadwood for the great work done ;)


@deadwood
From what I have noticed InstallAROS ignores the Directory i have added (Office, Music etc..) in the ISO created by me, is there a way to force the installation of these Directory?

I enclose screenshots of the new AROS One x86 LiveDVD (with my new Dual-PNG icons)

(https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=632.0;attach=687;image)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 06, 2020, 03:52:39 AM
Integrated my AROS One x86 with "AROS-20170402-1-pc-i386-boot-iso", the system started without problems from VMware, the DVD in Live works well, updated also some icons created by me, in the next days I will try to install and test the various applications, thanks Deadwood for the great work done ;)
It's fine. We'll use it, if you are ever shared. I think that more specifics are needed: attach a script for Install, for example. Create a bug here (https://github.com/deadw00d/AROS/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+project%3Adeadw00d%2FAROS%2F3).
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: ntromans on December 06, 2020, 05:31:25 AM
Sorry for the delay in responding - busy week.

On my AROS laptops (Dell Latitude, HP Compaq, both pretty well fully supported by AROS), for test CD native IntelGMA graphics works (including 3D), as does audio (HDaudio), usb 2 and trackpads. However, the Netgear USB WiFi dongle does not due to an error in the RealTek8180.device. I'll put up an an image of the error panel later from Wayfarer (I'm on AROS right now and on trying to get the image into Imgur it's throwing up a recapcha, which OWB can't display).

I tried to test on a usb 3 machine (Acer Aspire), but this proved difficult as the test CD just boots to a blank black screen no matter what Grub option I chose. Oddly, if I pull out the CD part way through booting a shell is displayed complaining of this. As far as I can tell usb is not working on this machine, either via the usb 2 or 3 ports, although as stated it's rather difficult to know why. I can't even boot into the early startup screen as the keyboard is U/S on that laptop and so we've been using a usb one on it, which as noted is not working...

More testing when I get a few more minutes,
Cheers,
Nigel. 




Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 06, 2020, 05:39:46 AM
It's fine. We'll use it, if you are ever shared. I think that more specifics are needed: attach a script for Install, for example. Create
My AROS x86 and 68k distribution has always been available for everyone even if it's ignored in this forum, unfortunately I'm not a developer and I don't have my own site to post it, maybe that's why it's not considered.

I will make some det, but on my old WMWare Player the audio works perfectly and also the USB3 port works on WMWare, see screenshot:

(https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=632.0;attach=691;image)

Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 06, 2020, 06:18:06 AM
My AROS x86 and 68k distribution has always been available for everyone even if it's ignored in this forum, unfortunately I'm not a developer and I don't have my own site to post it, maybe that's why it's not considered.
No that's not true.
Your distribution is known, I personally contributed information about AROS One to Wikipedia (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/AROS#AROS_One) and all my screenshots (http://archives.aros-exec.org/index.php?function=modules/snapshot/recent) are from your distribution.
Just because nice icons and default MorphOS style.
However, we cannot download anything from the links you provide (https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=530): 404 Not found or No access.
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0b9d50Q/404-Aros-ONe.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZRcF09xp/Aros-ONE-No-Access.png)
So screenshots with icons are more annoying than pleasing.

I will make some det, but on my old WMWare Player the audio works perfectly and also the USB3 port works on WMWare, see screenshot:
On your old WMWare Player - which version is it? If you state something, write information. No information - nothing to discuss.
Also, no one uses the old versions. The user will always download the latest version.
The developer needs information about version to understand what has changed, so he can at least read CHANGELOG for VMPlayer/VBox.
Show what with controllers / devices / classes in Trident. You just showed the VMWare Player settings and mounted ISO-image, they don't talk about anything.
What is your sound card? What driver is used AHI?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 06, 2020, 09:06:50 AM
Yes I know you use AROS One and I thank you for the review on Wikipedia that I didn't know, I was referring to this forum where there is no dedicated section to be visible.

My old links don't work because I had to distribute the new version, not having a site many users downloaded the old one instead of the new one, then came health problems (operated on one eye) as well as small old age sicknesses.

I use an old Dual-Core PC with Win7 32Bit, VNware v6.0.7 (with a 32 Bit system I can't use newer versions), ATI Radeon HD 6250 Video Card and Creative Sound Card SB Aiudigy, AHI uses Drive SB 128 HiFi 16 Bit Stereo +

Everything works like the old AROS One, this is much faster, I recreated the ISO with ka distribution of Deadwood + my Apps and my AROS One confgurations.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 06, 2020, 09:47:10 AM
@ntromans

Thanks for the test, two questions:

1) Does the Netgear dongle work with Reference ISO?
2) With regards to you second hardware, can you edit the grub command line and remove the pciusb.device module line and then see if AROS boots (this disables USB support)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 06, 2020, 09:50:07 AM
@AMIGASYSTEM

About audio: when you use AHI prefs and play the test sound - is it clear or distorted?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 06, 2020, 10:29:45 AM
Hi deadwood, in AHI Prefs the Audio Test is a bit fragmented, the Audio files instead feel good (MP3, FLAC, WMA), in the videos instead the Audio is slightly fragmented, consider that my PC is an old Dual-Core and a 32Bit Win7 so only about 3GB of Ram.

I enclose a small video where you can listen to AHI Pref, Audio and Video files (you have to download it, on Goole Drvive seems not to work video conversion).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G3Q8p2XwFw5-5XijkgcfEaD7444UQbU1/view

Riguardo la mia richiesta fatta nel post precedente, la riposto qui:

Da quanto ho notato InstallAROS ignora la Directory che ho aggiunto (Ufficio, Musica ecc.) nella ISO da me creata, c'è un modo per forzare l'installazione di queste Directory?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 06, 2020, 11:41:23 AM
@deadwood

I tried in the reference iso the usb dongle of the netgear after setting the network in the preferences I had no problem with the recognition, but I could not test the network with owb because the necessary libraries on the iso are missing to start it
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 06, 2020, 11:43:40 AM
@salvo

Can you test with ping command? It is present on the ISO.

Can you show me what this Netgear dongle is? I though AROS didn't support USB network cards...
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 06, 2020, 12:24:22 PM
@deadwood

yes honestly the netgear wg111v3
which is the only hardware supported by aros via usb has always given some problems, at least I have used it in the past, then I noticed now at this moment that it does not scan the networks, however how should I use the ping command
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 06, 2020, 01:04:07 PM
@deadwood

then in the reference iso the usb dongle is recognized but the internet does not work, in the iso test the sound problem concerns the subsystem that is it is distorted, if you use for example mplayer to run an audio file everything works properly
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 06, 2020, 01:42:12 PM
however how should I use the ping command

Just open AROS Shell and type 'ping google.com'. You should start seening responses from google.com listed in shell.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 06, 2020, 01:45:33 PM
deadwood i tried another program to test if it worked and it didn't work
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: ntromans on December 06, 2020, 02:36:00 PM
@ntromans

Thanks for the test, two questions:

1) Does the Netgear dongle work with Reference ISO?
2) With regards to you second hardware, can you edit the grub command line and remove the pciusb.device module line and then see if AROS boots (this disables USB support)

I'll have to give the reference ISO a try, but obviously it works fine with standard Icaros distro. The error with the device was:

(https://i.imgur.com/HDe5vXK.png)

I also tried on my Cerleron duo desktop. Nvidea graphics worked in 2D but 3D seems to have a problem; 'Cow3D' benchmark gave this error:

(https://i.imgur.com/ATxs4V7.jpg)

Works on normal Icaros. 3DMark worked though.

Trying to play any sound via Terratec Aurion soundcard crashed the machine hard, needing a power cycle. This card is fine with normal Icaros aside from not being properly initialised on power up (gives distorted sound until a reset and then is fine).

PCI tool gives this info for the card (under normal Icaros):

(https://i.imgur.com/z9xDePS.jpg)

The rtl8169.device or the deeper network code does not seem to be working. No error on startup, but pinging in the routrer just gives the '56 data bytes' message. Set up as in normal Icaros (where it works) with manual settings for IP address and router.

I'll give the USB 3 machine another go when I have a moment.

Cheers,
Nigel.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 06, 2020, 02:42:43 PM
AROS-20170402-1-pc-i386-boot-iso ( VMware Workstation 15 Player )

TEST USB 1.1
Code: [Select]
Environment:
------------
VMware 15 Player :  15.5.2 build-15785246
RAM:                1024MB, 1 CPU, no checkmarks in Virtualization engine
Display:            Specify to 1024x768, no Accelerate 3D graphics
Sound:              Specify host sound card: Roland Rubix 24, Connect at power on
Network:            NAT, Connect at power on
USB:                USB 1.1 Checkmark on Show all USB input devices
After start:
(https://i.postimg.cc/CMPP9ZXB/VM-USB1-connected.png)
AHI play a test sound as distort, but work!
(https://i.postimg.cc/rsBSML5b/VM-USB1-AHI.png)
Trident controllers
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2zNJKsr/VM-USB1-controllers.png)
Trident devices
(https://i.postimg.cc/ryxNcQhr/VM-USB1-devices.png)
Trident classes
(https://i.postimg.cc/1tP5FRQP/VM-USB1-classes.png)
TEST USB 2.0
Code: [Select]
Environment:
------------
VMware 15 Player :  15.5.2 build-15785246
RAM:                1024MB, 1 CPU, no checkmarks in Virtualization engine
Display:            Specify to 1024x768, no Accelerate 3D graphics
Sound:              Specify host sound card: Roland Rubix 24, Connect at power on
Network:            NAT, Connect at power on
USB:                USB 2.0 Checkmark on Show all USB input devices
After start:
(https://i.postimg.cc/8zNSwKYB/VM-USB2-connected.png)
AHI play a test sound as distort, but work!
(https://i.postimg.cc/4xDprcz5/VM-USB2-AHI.png)
Trident controllers
(https://i.postimg.cc/GpStWnw1/VM-USB2-controllers.png)
Trident devices
(https://i.postimg.cc/y6hB9CQY/VM-USB2-devices.png)
Trident classes
(https://i.postimg.cc/FH72TMZS/VM-USB2-classes.png)
TEST USB 3.0
Code: [Select]
Environment:
------------
VMware 15 Player :  15.5.2 build-15785246
RAM:                1024MB, 1 CPU, no checkmarks in Virtualization engine
Display:            Specify to 1024x768, no Accelerate 3D graphics
Sound:              Specify host sound card: Roland Rubix 24, Connect at power on
Network:            NAT, Connect at power on
USB:                USB 3.0 Checkmark on Show all USB input devices
After start:
(https://i.postimg.cc/qR0DHS8j/VM-USB3-connected.png)
AHI play a test sound as distort, but work!
(https://i.postimg.cc/L4JQKtfd/VM-USB3-AHI.png)
Trident controllers
(https://i.postimg.cc/0j7p5yPS/VM-USB3-controllers.png)
Trident devices
(https://i.postimg.cc/tRFPx7GZ/VM-USB3-devices.png)
Trident classes
(https://i.postimg.cc/522FT3YL/VM-USB3-classes.png)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 06, 2020, 03:30:46 PM
I have compiled the data about USB in VM into two table.
bottom table - what was expected, top table - what happened:
(https://i.postimg.cc/NFHmVQdK/AROS-USB-Summary.png)
My ophinion:
VMware player is engaged in amateur performances and as a result - sound works
Virtual Box forwards ports honestly and as a result - no sound
Both options are wrong and USB 3.0 doesn't work anywhere.  :(

My old links don't work because I had to distribute the new version, not having a site many users downloaded the old one instead of the new one, then came health problems (operated on one eye) as well as small old age sicknesses.
Links to google drive do not belong to you?
If the links you have posted - why not let people who have the link download the distribution?
I don't know of any distributions with m68k-aros architecture except yours AROS One.
Until maintainers can not download this distribution, it makes no sense for them to create toolchain for m68k.
What we compile needs to be tested. Applications for m68k-aros will not appear on their own.

Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 06, 2020, 05:41:59 PM
Of AROS One 68k I deleted the link because I used some OS3 libraries that I wasn't sure were free, anyway there are other AROS 68k distros like ApolloOS, AROS Vision and the old AROS Orca m68k.

I hope to distribute the new AROS One 68k and x86 as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: magorium on December 06, 2020, 08:33:26 PM
I don't know of any distributions with m68k-aros architecture except yours AROS One.
user AMIGASYSTEM already addressed that part, as there are a couple of them some created waaay before AROS-One (such as ORCA/vision) and others (such as ApollOS) that are pretty new when comparing. Perhaps you should have a closer look at my turds ( https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=76.0 ) (even though ORCA does not get mentioned there simply because the website went belly up ages ago, and neither is the distribution being updated anymore afaik)  ;)

Quote
What we compile needs to be tested. Applications for m68k-aros will not appear on their own.
Sure, and in light of the above that has already be done or when speaking of apollos _is_ being done.

Note that apart from the AROS extended functionality, that both ABI and API of AROS are compatible with that of amigaOS 3.x (at least that is the goal, if you spot and/or experience  a difference then that is food for the bugtracker). There are some differences ofc but for that we would need to go into system development details and i'm not sure how good that will do us with regards to the discussion atm.

Regards,
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 06, 2020, 11:37:38 PM
Ok, now it became clear.

ApolloOS not related to m68k-aros. These guys have no prejudices and it's just a soup from different m68 software.
Officially: Instead of just porting AROS from Intel to 68k, ApolloOS will be accesses Amiga chipset and 68k directly instead of using AROS HAL.
I have a sample of this creativity, it's beautiful and unstable AmigaOS build. I will look towards AROS Vision, it seems to make sense, thanks.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: magorium on December 07, 2020, 12:46:48 AM
ApolloOS not related to m68k-aros.
It started out as m68k-aros and much of the original codebase is still there.

Quote
These guys have no prejudices and it's just a soup from different m68 software.
Your words... not mine   ;)

Quote
Officially: Instead of just porting AROS from Intel to 68k, ApolloOS will be accesses Amiga chipset and 68k directly instead of using AROS HAL.
That is correct. As far as i have been able to tell/see is that the abstraction layer posed some speed related issues (and from the thread-responses they didn't actually quite seem to understand why this layer even exist) so basically they ripped (are ripping) that layer out of the equation.

Quote
I have a sample of this creativity, it's beautiful and unstable AmigaOS build.
No idea how that could have happened  :D

I agree that currently it is a very strange relationship between ApollOS and AROS, but at the same time... any progress is progress nonetheless. In that regards, my personal opinion doesn't matter or change things one bit. It sometimes is just very funny reading material when browsing their forums, and we can use a bit of laughter in these dark days  ;D


Quote
I will look towards AROS Vision, it seems to make sense, thanks.
A heads up... if you are biased against mix- and matching... aros vision is one big mixed pile (or at least it used to be one big messed up pile of software that required quite some work to get it a bit more organized)

And actually, from a usage/maintainer point of view, it is quite understandable. AROS lacks behind and has some issues here and there (missing manpower). If you then are able to replace those parts with their original amigaOS counterparts that do work (using AROS kernel and most of the other software components) then it is starting to make sense.



That said, i do believe you are also aware of the 'improvements' and updates that are done against original amigaOS (some of those that are closed source) and that can not be 'ported' to AROS.

For example: What to do with a highly optimized library that was handwritten in 68k assembly (or heaven forbids 68080) ... rewrite it into c for AROS so that it becomes available again for all platforms or rewrite them manually in assembly for ppc, x86 , arm ? Imho that is working against the AROS philosophy.

As another amusing read: try to read the threads on amiga related forums (also morphos) where people ask/plead for a port of their OS to x86/arm.... and those threads are usually populated by the same people that do not get the clue about AROS for over decades now.

All i can say is, that was already started... what is it now...  30 years ago ? And still there are hordes of people that don't get what AROS is about.

And yes, we can argue about the execution/implementation of the AROS project... but in fact that is about 30 years too late  ;)

regards,

PS: aGGreSSor, if you wish to continue this conversation then please try to stat a new thread and not let us pollute this thread from deadwood about refreshing the backport any further. I apologize as well for my writings in this thread. e.g. feel free to delete or move it somewhere else. I have gone too far off-topic already.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 07, 2020, 12:52:09 AM
However, we cannot download anything from the links you provide (https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=530): 404 Not found or No access.
AROS One x86 1.3 was available here: https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=510.0
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: magorium on December 07, 2020, 01:12:21 AM
AROS One x86 1.3 was available here:
Sorry AMIGASYSTEM, that might have been my wrongdoing because i linked to your first thread about AROS one (i will try to fix that tomorrow).

That is why a while ago i asked if you have a stable webpage or thread somewhere. It avoids this kind of confusion and the time that i have to spend digging up threads. It doesn't have to be fancy, and can even be a github page or similar (whatever floats your boat).

If you are serious enough about your releases you could perhaps consider to make a request to 4play to have a dedicated sub-board for your distribution(s). In case that is too specific then a sub-board "other distributions" comes to mind. But you should really discuss that with 4play, if you consider that as an option.

regards,
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 07, 2020, 01:28:38 AM
Yes I think it's the right thing to create here a reference section so that only the latest release is always available for both x86 and 68k, thank you magorium always kind and helpful
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 07, 2020, 05:48:18 AM
sorry can we talk about deadwood work here please, open other threads where needed thanks ;)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 07, 2020, 08:57:14 AM
ORCA does not get mentioned there simply because the website went belly up ages ago, and neither is the distribution being updated anymore afaik)  ;)

ORCA it was a very good Distribution is now no longer compatible with the new Nightly Build of AROS 68k, AROS- ORCA is still available on Aminet.

https://aminet.net/package/misc/os/aros-orca-m68k

Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 07, 2020, 10:31:06 AM
@ntromans

Thanks, reports added to bug tracker
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 07, 2020, 10:41:51 AM
I have compiled the data about USB in VM into two table.
bottom table - what was expected, top table - what happened:

Thanks a lot for compiling this table
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: paolone on December 08, 2020, 04:33:58 AM
Riguardo la mia richiesta fatta nel post precedente, la riposto qui:

Da quanto ho notato InstallAROS ignora la Directory che ho aggiunto (Ufficio, Musica ecc.) nella ISO da me creata, c'è un modo per forzare l'installazione di queste Directory?


Just place them into Extras like I did on Icaros. Yes, there's a reason for Icaros' strange file organization.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 08, 2020, 05:08:51 AM
Just place them into Extras like I did on Icaros. Yes, there's a reason for Icaros' strange file organization.
Paolo as mentioned in another post also on my AROS One I used "Extras" but I don't like that they are "hidden", also because on AROS One 68k the new folders are externally in the Root and this could be confusing.

--- Italiano ---

Paolo come citato su altro post anche sul mio AROS One ho utilizzato "Extras" ma non mi piace che siano "nascosti", anche perchè su AROS One 68k le nuova cartelle si trovano esternamente nella Root e questo potrebbe confondere.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 08, 2020, 05:38:23 AM
carlo apri un'altro tread apposito per altre discussioni perfavore, qui si sta parlando dei bug riguardo il lavoro di deadwood
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 08, 2020, 06:05:00 AM
Salvatore, read it, I answered Paolone! and then the request is inherent, my request was also for the ISO of deadwood
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 08, 2020, 06:08:43 AM
ok :), i understand but let's focus on deadwood work ;)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 09, 2020, 03:57:46 AM
@deadwood

With "AROS-20170402-1-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip" I found that after installing the system on WMware and if you add an ISO (Bootabe or no bootable) the system crashes with black screen.

If instead on WMware you deactivate "Connect at on" and mount it later after the system boot everything works properly.

With the old Distro AROS this did not happen.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 09, 2020, 07:39:05 AM
Do I understand correcly the sequence to trigger a crash:

1) Install under VMWAre to disk
2) Remove ISO from virtual cdrom
3) Reboot from disk
4) Insert ISO into virtual cdrom
--crash---

?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 09, 2020, 07:54:56 AM
Solved, probably it was my PC made a reboot and the problem disappeared, even from the USB3 port now makes me mount a Pendrive, before I had to reboot for automatic mount.

The only thing I noticed that your Distro mounts CD/ISO as CD1, while the old distros mounted CD/ISO as CD2.

Regarding my previous request about inserting other folders in the installer, is it feasible to continue using the Extras folder?

Thank you for your great work.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 09, 2020, 07:56:50 AM
Glad it is solved. What request about Installer are you refering too?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on December 09, 2020, 08:02:12 AM
InstallAROS does not provide for the installation of extra directories, in the creation of my ISO I added directories named Graphics, Video, Music, Office etc.. and consequently they are ignored by InstallAROS.

In my old distros I folded putting these folders in Extras but I don't like it because in that path they are hidden !

I also add that on your Distro the old OWBs work but your last release OWB doesn't seem to work !
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 09, 2020, 08:19:53 AM
I'm not planning to modify InstallAROS, but as far as I remember there is a way to run an external script at the end of installation. You could install everyhing ot Extras and then move the directories out with that script.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 09, 2020, 12:08:33 PM
the iso test when it boots and I enter the system if I restart with the classic keyboard commands "ctrl + alt + del" everything crashes with a "software failure"
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 09, 2020, 02:26:45 PM
the iso test when it boots and I enter the system if I restart with the classic keyboard commands "ctrl + alt + del" everything crashes with a "software failure"

Does it work on reference ISO?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 10, 2020, 12:33:07 AM
yes works
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on December 13, 2020, 01:29:58 PM
Very nice to see abi v.0 updated!!
I first tried the 2017 version and what I tried seamed to work good except wi-fi.
Wireless manager did not find any networks when I tried to scan. I typed in manualy but after that the system became very slow. Something AROS was not happy about.
The 2016 version everything works good from what I tested.

Computer is DELL Latitude D520 Laptop where IntelGFX, native is working great. Sound and USB is also good.

Thank you for this update Deadwood  :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 13, 2020, 02:41:39 PM
@nikos

Hello Nikos, good to see you back. What network device did you use on your laptop?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 13, 2020, 02:55:26 PM
atheros wifi deadwood
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on December 13, 2020, 03:37:31 PM
@nikos

Hello Nikos, good to see you back. What network device did you use on your laptop?

Yes, correct as Salvo said, Atheros.
With Power Off my laptop freeze. Restart Computer, Restart AROS works perfect.
Are some things faster now? Everything seams stable and fast :)
I write this from Odyssey on your nice build :)

Edit: Great news :) It is definatly faster!!  I had a video where I recorded GPmark tests around 3 years ago. All tests with Deadwoods latest builds show a boost at around 10%. That is massive :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 14, 2020, 02:00:37 AM
Zune doesn't read LOCALE:Catalogs/russian/System/Libs/muimaster.catalog
Many catalogs cannot be used now due to the old version, but my version 3.0!

I looked at the sources (https://github.com/aros-development-team/AROS/blob/477157f7378c6d69cd43cdeeca97f2cdb1bf221d/workbench/libs/muimaster/locale.c): i have the right path and version.

Suddenly discovered that C:version in AROS-20170402-1 works correctly:
(https://i.postimg.cc/wMSwNWkJ/muimaster-abiv0.png)

Amazing things happen in old distributions (AROS One):
(https://i.postimg.cc/mkRYW0Vm/muimaster.png)

but still, what to do with muimaster.catalog?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 14, 2020, 03:45:35 AM
@aGGreSSor

muimaster.library has been localized only in January 2020, so you will have to wait until I rebase to that point to have the muimaster.catalog working.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 15, 2020, 12:26:28 PM

Trying to play any sound via Terratec Aurion soundcard crashed the machine hard, needing a power cycle. This card is fine with normal Icaros aside from not being properly initialised on power up (gives distorted sound until a reset and then is fine).


Can you try your card with Reference ISO? I don't want to assume which code base Icaros is using.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 15, 2020, 01:02:13 PM
@all

There is new testing ISO in the first post 20170402-2

Please test:
- warm reboot (Wanderer->Restart AROS)
- cltr+alt+delete
- realtek8180.device crash
- garbled sound with HDAudio
- garbled sound with sb128
- atheros.device crash
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 15, 2020, 01:26:18 PM
ok deadwood try it :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 15, 2020, 01:31:08 PM
20170402-2 on VirtualBox 6.1.4 r136177 (Qt5.6.2)

+ warm reboot (Wanderer->Restart AROS) - restarted AROS loaded from LiveCD
+ cltr+alt+delete - there was a complete reboot

Remained unchanged:
- ac97.audio slow down the system, AHI Prefs freezes and cannot be closed (ctrl+alt+delete helped me)
- bug with 150K CD0 in System/Format and 134K CD0 Filesystem OFS in Wanderer/Icon/Information...

20170402-2 on VMware Player 15

+ cltr+alt+delete - there was a complete reboot
+ sb128.audio gave me a clear sound in AHI Prefs for "Play a test sound" button with 0x00340002 and 0x00340004 mode ID!

Remained unchanged:
- warm reboot (Wanderer->Restart AROS) - there was a black screen, and ctrl+alt+delete doesn't help me
- bug with 150K CD0 in System/Format and 134K CD0 Filesystem OFS in Wanderer/Icon/Information...
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 15, 2020, 01:57:22 PM
deadwood on my system

1. assuming works because do not have installed the iso, simpled reboot the computer
2. works
3. do not works do not see the router wifi, but the system do not crash
4. works
5.do not have yet
6.works
7.the system is very stable ;)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 15, 2020, 02:30:39 PM
@aGGreSSor - Thanks
@salvo - so I understand that sound issues with HDAudio are gone and WiFi via atheros.device works correctly now?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 15, 2020, 02:39:04 PM
yes deadwood :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 15, 2020, 03:06:57 PM
Thx
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 15, 2020, 03:08:12 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: mmartinka on December 15, 2020, 04:56:31 PM
@all

There is new testing ISO in the first post 20170402-2

VirtualBox 5.0.40
Please test:
- warm reboot (Wanderer->Restart AROS)  work OK
- cltr+alt+delete work OK

- garbled sound with HDAudio System slow - the sound is full of noise
- garbled sound with sb128 system no detected sound card
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on December 15, 2020, 05:06:04 PM
@all

There is new testing ISO in the first post 20170402-2

Please test:
- warm reboot (Wanderer->Restart AROS)
- cltr+alt+delete
- realtek8180.device crash
- garbled sound with HDAudio
- garbled sound with sb128
- atheros.device crash

On my DELL Latitude 520 wi-fi with atheros is now working :)

Warm reboot does not work as the whole computer shuts down.

Shot down computer from menu freeze the computer as before.
Restart Computer and Restart AROS from menu also shuts down the computer.

System Explorer worked in 2016.
Now I get this:
https://imgshare.io/image/img-20201216-002851574.NQHLYw
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 15, 2020, 05:54:52 PM
@all

There is new testing ISO in the first post 20170402-2

VirtualBox 5.0.40
Please test:
- warm reboot (Wanderer->Restart AROS)  work OK
- cltr+alt+delete work OK

- garbled sound with HDAudio System slow - the sound is full of noise
- garbled sound with sb128 system no detected sound card

Does it mean this ISO actually started on your VBox 5.0.40? I think you were reporting that previous test ISO did not work for you.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 15, 2020, 05:56:34 PM
@all

There is new testing ISO in the first post 20170402-2

Please test:
- warm reboot (Wanderer->Restart AROS)
- cltr+alt+delete
- realtek8180.device crash
- garbled sound with HDAudio
- garbled sound with sb128
- atheros.device crash

On my DELL Latitude 520 wi-fi with atheros is now working :)

Warm reboot does not work as the whole computer shuts down.

Shot down computer from menu freeze the computer as before.
Restart Computer and Restart AROS from menu also shuts down the computer.

System Explorer worked in 2016.
Now I get this:
https://imgshare.io/image/img-20201216-002851574.NQHLYw

About System Explorer - you screen shot suggests you installed the ISO to harddrive. Is that correct? If so, you are having old drivers (hidd files) which conflict with new kernel. You need to remove those.

What should CTRL+ALT+DELETE do? W warm reboot of AROS or a complete reboot of a machine?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on December 15, 2020, 06:28:53 PM
@all

There is new testing ISO in the first post 20170402-2

Please test:
- warm reboot (Wanderer->Restart AROS)
- cltr+alt+delete
- realtek8180.device crash
- garbled sound with HDAudio
- garbled sound with sb128
- atheros.device crash

On my DELL Latitude 520 wi-fi with atheros is now working :)

Warm reboot does not work as the whole computer shuts down.

Shot down computer from menu freeze the computer as before.
Restart Computer and Restart AROS from menu also shuts down the computer.

System Explorer worked in 2016.
Now I get this:
https://imgshare.io/image/img-20201216-002851574.NQHLYw

About System Explorer - you screen shot suggests you installed the ISO to harddrive. Is that correct? If so, you are having old drivers (hidd files) which conflict with new kernel. You need to remove those.

What should CTRL+ALT+DELETE do? W warm reboot of AROS or a complete reboot of a machine?
It should reset the OS, just like on real Amiga hardware. Not a complete reboot.

It is correct, I installed the ISO to HDD. I did a clean install with format and looking at the time of the files it is all the same so must be from same install.


Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: mmartinka on December 15, 2020, 07:41:59 PM
@all

There is new testing ISO in the first post 20170402-2

VirtualBox 5.0.40
Please test:
- warm reboot (Wanderer->Restart AROS)  work OK
- cltr+alt+delete work OK

- garbled sound with HDAudio System slow - the sound is full of noise
- garbled sound with sb128 system no detected sound card

Does it mean this ISO actually started on your VBox 5.0.40? I think you were reporting that previous test ISO did not work for you.

I must disable IO-APIC then the boot.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 15, 2020, 11:16:45 PM
I must disable IO-APIC then the boot.
Hehe. That's for sure.
I'm enable option "Enable IO-APIC" and black screen with freeze for "Restart AROS" returned to my VBox 6.1  ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/GmFft4Sm/bug-IO-APIC.png)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 16, 2020, 01:07:48 AM

It should reset the OS, just like on real Amiga hardware. Not a complete reboot.

Do you have a version of AROS that does that? I tried Icaros 2.1 in VBox and it reboots the machine instead of reseting AROS.

It is correct, I installed the ISO to HDD. I did a clean install with format and looking at the time of the files it is all the same so must be from same install.

Can you try booting from livecd and running SysExplorer from livecd to see if it crashes as well? I does not crash for me in VBox.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 16, 2020, 01:09:09 AM
I must disable IO-APIC then the boot.

Did you disable it in VM setting or via AROS boot parameters?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on December 16, 2020, 02:40:17 AM

It should reset the OS, just like on real Amiga hardware. Not a complete reboot.

Do you have a version of AROS that does that? I tried Icaros 2.1 in VBox and it reboots the machine instead of reseting AROS.

It is correct, I installed the ISO to HDD. I did a clean install with format and looking at the time of the files it is all the same so must be from same install.

Can you try booting from livecd and running SysExplorer from livecd to see if it crashes as well? I does not crash for me in VBox.

Almost on all ABI v.0 versions of AROS warm-reset is working including your 2016 version :)
When it did not work I'm most certain it was driver related, some hidd, but then it froze the machine and not turn off computer like like your 2017 version.

I tried the Live-CD of the new 2017 build and it is the same problem. SysExplorer crash and key combo. turn off hardware.

Edit:
I found out it is the native driver. On my hardware, IntelGMA.
Booting from VESA mode SystemExplorer does not crash. Key combo is still shutting down the computer.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: mmartinka on December 16, 2020, 03:06:22 AM
I must disable IO-APIC then the boot.

Did you disable it in VM setting or via AROS boot parameters?
In the VM setting. AROS boot parameter me not work (ACPI=disable - is it correct?)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 16, 2020, 04:05:57 AM
I must disable IO-APIC then the boot.

Did you disable it in VM setting or via AROS boot parameters?
In the VM setting. AROS boot parameter me not work (ACPI=disable - is it correct?)

The boot parameters are:

noacpi -> disables ACPI
noapic -> disables IO APIC
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 16, 2020, 04:14:34 AM
Almost on all ABI v.0 versions of AROS warm-reset is working including your 2016 version :)
When it did not work I'm most certain it was driver related, some hidd, but then it froze the machine and not turn off computer like like your 2017 version.

I tried 20161228-1 in VBox and CTRL+ALT+DELETE restarts the complete VM. Seems this is hardware dependent. I'll update the bug report

I tried the Live-CD of the new 2017 build and it is the same problem. SysExplorer crash and key combo. turn off hardware.

Edit:
I found out it is the native driver. On my hardware, IntelGMA.
Booting from VESA mode SystemExplorer does not crash. Key combo is still shutting down the computer.

That's what I suspected. I'll file in a bug report.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: paolone on December 16, 2020, 04:15:09 AM
What should CTRL+ALT+DELETE do? W warm reboot of AROS or a complete reboot of a machine?
It should reset the OS, just like on real Amiga hardware. Not a complete reboot.

It is correct, I installed the ISO to HDD. I did a clean install with format and looking at the time of the files it is all the same so must be from same install.


Sorry but...


didn't warb reset (OS Only) trigger with Ctrl+lAmiga+rAmiga


and


cold (whole pc) reset trigger with Ctrl+Alt+Del?


I am quite sure Ctrl+Alt+Del should reset the whole PC, while Ctrl+lAmiga+rAmiga OS only.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Devlin on December 16, 2020, 04:42:48 AM
I think in this case, ctrl-alt-del should be disabled and ctrl-amiga-amiga should be a hard reset. it boots that quickly it doesn't really need a command just to restart the os(ctrl-amiga-amiga crashes my aros box anyway)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 16, 2020, 05:02:30 AM
I think in this case, ctrl-alt-del should be disabled and ctrl-amiga-amiga should be a hard reset. it boots that quickly it doesn't really need a command just to restart the os(ctrl-amiga-amiga crashes my aros box anyway)

Does it still crash with 20170402-2?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: paolone on December 16, 2020, 05:09:46 AM
I think in this case, ctrl-alt-del should be disabled and ctrl-amiga-amiga should be a hard reset. it boots that quickly it doesn't really need a command just to restart the os(ctrl-amiga-amiga crashes my aros box anyway)


I can't understand why. We've always had two different ways of resetting AROS, and there is no reason to kill one.
Ctrl+lAmiga+rAmiga for a warm reset
Ctrl+Alt+Del for a PC style cold reset.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 16, 2020, 05:27:51 AM
I think in this case, ctrl-alt-del should be disabled and ctrl-amiga-amiga should be a hard reset. it boots that quickly it doesn't really need a command just to restart the os(ctrl-amiga-amiga crashes my aros box anyway)
Don't be fooled. When AROS learns to do everything that other OS do during boot, it will slow down in the same way. It's only a matter of time.
Besides, the variety has not bothered anyone yet.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 16, 2020, 05:37:10 AM
I can't understand why. We've always had two different ways of resetting AROS, and there is no reason to kill one.
Ctrl+lAmiga+rAmiga for a warm reset
Ctrl+Alt+Del for a PC style cold reset.
[/quote]

i agree
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on December 16, 2020, 06:47:41 AM
What should CTRL+ALT+DELETE do? W warm reboot of AROS or a complete reboot of a machine?
It should reset the OS, just like on real Amiga hardware. Not a complete reboot.

It is correct, I installed the ISO to HDD. I did a clean install with format and looking at the time of the files it is all the same so must be from same install.


Sorry but...


didn't warb reset (OS Only) trigger with Ctrl+lAmiga+rAmiga


and


cold (whole pc) reset trigger with Ctrl+Alt+Del?


I am quite sure Ctrl+Alt+Del should reset the whole PC, while Ctrl+lAmiga+rAmiga OS only.

I always though that was the same. I did not know AROS supports a shut down key combo, but you are right.
On my DELL laptop I use CTRL+LWIN+MENU key
 
Anyway, warm-reset is not working with 2017 build on my DELL laptop, but works with 2016 build.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 16, 2020, 07:28:14 AM


I always though that was the same. I did not know AROS supports a shut down key combo, but you are right.
On my DELL laptop I use CTRL+LWIN+MENU key
 
Anyway, warm-reset is not working with 2017 build on my DELL laptop, but works with 2016 build.

What if you use VESA for video and don't start network?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on December 16, 2020, 08:20:49 AM


I always though that was the same. I did not know AROS supports a shut down key combo, but you are right.
On my DELL laptop I use CTRL+LWIN+MENU key
 
Anyway, warm-reset is not working with 2017 build on my DELL laptop, but works with 2016 build.

What if you use VESA for video and don't start network?

I tried this:

VESA or Native mode does not change anything regarding shut down, cold reboot.
Starting network during system boot does.
What happen is if Network is started the computer shut down with the key combo CTRL+A+A or in my case CTRL+Win+Menu.
If Network is not started the same key combo will do a cold reboot :o :P ::) ;D

Very wired?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on December 17, 2020, 11:50:57 AM
I downloaded some big files from AROS archives and the OS froze after awhile, had to reboot and try to download again. It happened 2 times. Now I'm downloading 1 game at the time, Atheros wi-fi. Maybe it is some kind of disconnect, connect problem with wi-fi that freeze the OS?
I remember from a few years I had the same problem. I just wanted to mention it.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 17, 2020, 12:31:23 PM
Thanks - if you have wired networking can you try if you get the freezes there as well?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on December 17, 2020, 02:34:45 PM
Thanks - if you have wired networking can you try if you get the freezes there as well?

NIC for wired connection is not supoorted by AROS on my DELL.
I could maybe try this with my ACER aspire one. I will try to find the netbook ;)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 18, 2020, 11:56:54 AM
First post update, version 20170402-3 available:
- no changes to ISO
- linux and windows hosted builds available
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on December 18, 2020, 12:34:36 PM
First post update, version 20170402-3 available:
- no changes to ISO
- linux and windows hosted builds available

I tried your Linux hosted build. Have not found any problems yet :)

The problem I had with MPlayer is gone. It is working now :)

https://github.com/deadw00d/AROS/issues/2
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 20, 2020, 10:54:51 AM
FYI, here is a change log between 20161228-1 and 20170402-3.

Code: [Select]
AROS ABIv0 20170402 changes:

  Functionalities:
    Align naming of graphic drivers and make them visible in SysExplorer (Kalamatee)
    Query graphics driver for 3D subdriver (Kalamatee)
    C library improvements (Mazze, Kalamatee)
    Kernel ACPI support (Kalamatee)
    SysMon listing tasks better (Kalamatee)
    Kernel IO-APIC support (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Kernel interrupt support (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Kernel SMP support (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Kernel shutdown/reboot support (Kalamatee)
    Kernel spinlock support (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Public locking mechanism support (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Kernel CPU cores control (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    processor.resource improvements (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    SMP-enabled Message Port handling (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    Protect access to Exec resources (Kalamatee)
    Better measurement of CPU usage (Schulz)
    SysMon listing CPU usage better (Kalamatee)
    Graph.mcc (Kalamatee)
    picture.datatype DTM_Write support (Mazze)
    vusbhci.device (DizzyOfCRN)
    Kernel MSI interrupt support (Kalamatee)
    List.mui improvements (Kalamatee)
    ACPI button driver (Kalamatee)
    PCI driver IRQ routing table (Kalamatee, Schulz, Neil)

  64-bit support:
    misc fixes (Kalamatee, Schulz)
    ahi.device, ac97.audio, hdudio.audio 64-bit support (Kalamatee)
    pciusb.device 64-bit support (Kalamatee)
    ata.device 64-bit support (Schulz)

  Updates:
    Flexcat 2.18 (Mazze)
    libz 1.2.11 (Mazze)
    libjpeg 9b (Mazze)
    libpng 1.6.28 (Mazze)
    AROS build system (Kalamatee)
    Icons (Paolone)
    GCC-6.3.0 (patch file) (Kalamatee)
 
  Fixes:
    Corrected datatype descriptors (Neil, Mazze)
    VGA driver (Kalamatee, Neil)
    Documentation (Neil, Kalamatee)
    X11 driver (deadwood)
    MUI (o1i, Kalamatee)
    Shell commands (Neil, Kalamatee, Mazze, Schulz)
    dos.library (Kalamatee)
    C:Decoration (Kalamatee)
    Kernel (Kalamatee)
    Catalogs (polluks, mmartinka, Kalamatee)
    Mesa (Kalamatee, Neil)
    emul-handler (Neil)
    console.device (Schulz)
    Intuition (Schulz, Neil)
    Preferences (Neil, balaton)
    kms.library (Kalamatee)
    pciusb.device (Schulz)
    C library (deadwood)
    Kernel ACPI support (Neil)
    Kernel interrupt support (Neil)
    PCI driver (Neil)
    Kernel IO-APIC support (Neil)
    atheros5000.device (Neil)
    Kernel shutdown/reboot support (Neil)
    Windows-hosted booting (deadwood)

Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on December 20, 2020, 12:15:17 PM
great :D
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 25, 2020, 12:23:21 PM
Hi,

I added link to Contrib archive build to first post as well as extended changelog information with changes happening in Contrib.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 27, 2020, 04:13:55 AM
While integrating AROS system files I noticed two differences:


- tool "delete" and its icon in system/wanderer/tools are not present
- smartcan is not present in wbstartup

Hi Paolo,

SmartTrash is part of Contrib archive now. Delete tool has not been used since 2011 (Wanderer has "delete" built in) and is removed now.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on December 28, 2020, 04:49:24 AM
I know of two bugs present in all AROS distributions available to me:

1. Described here (https://github.com/deadw00d/AROS/issues/36).
You cannot install the iff/ilbm backdrop file on your desktop.
I have attached a pattern.zip file to reproduce the bug.

2. Multiple copy
When you copy two or more directories from one source to one destination.
You expect two directories with their contents to be copied, but this is not the case.
I'm not ready to describe the playback algorithm now, but there are big problems with the logic of copying files and directories.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on December 28, 2020, 05:13:11 AM
Thanks for the report.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: denugan on January 01, 2021, 11:51:06 PM
I've just spent several hours testing the #3 image and haven't found any regressions so far:

Booting from CD and SSD OK
VESA and Native (GeForce ~6xxx) OK
USB fat32 read + write OK
SMB (RTL8169) read OK file browsing OK but large file write NG (status window freezes - same problem on reference)
HD Audio test sound OK

Power Off = freeze, Restart Computer = OK, Restart AROS = Freeze (same as reference)

The only issue I get on the test installation but not on the reference is errors when attempting to save network prefs "Please insert volume 'SYS' / 'T' in any drive". This didn't occur the first few times.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 02, 2021, 03:25:15 AM
@denugan

Thanks for testing and reporting back!
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 30, 2021, 04:16:12 AM
Hi All,

I prepared a new ISO with HDAudio driver that should now work in VirtualBox:

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-4-DEV-1-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

The driver version is 6.33

Please test it in your virtual box but more important please test it on real hardware supporting HDAudio. I had to make a few major changes and I want to make sure I did not break driver for real hardware.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on January 30, 2021, 04:21:49 AM
Thanks deadwood, I will integrate your new release into my AROS One and do some testing with both Virtual Machines and real PC, thanks again for your support !
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 30, 2021, 05:30:46 AM
This is a developer build with some debug enabled - I'd suggest just testing the ISO, not including it into a release. If all goes well there will be a new clean build available
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on January 30, 2021, 07:39:58 AM
deadwood i tried the iso on real hardware the hdaudio driver does not work, the system does not make any sound, nothing is heard  :-\
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 30, 2021, 07:59:02 AM
@salvo

Ok, please boot the ISO with the default option in grub selected. Then start Development/Debug/Sachimi and make the window full screen. Then start AHI Prefs and press play test sound once. Post the screen shot showing content of sashimi please
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on January 30, 2021, 08:03:14 AM
This is a developer build with some debug enabled - I'd suggest just testing the ISO, not including it into a release. If all goes well there will be a new clean build available

Thanks for replying, I have integrated to AROS One just to test the various Audio programs in order to have a wider overview, at the moment my distribution is only for testing, before publishing I will wait your new clean build :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on January 30, 2021, 08:24:42 AM
deadwood :)

(https://cdn-thumbs.imagevenue.com/4a/af/97/ME12X504_t.png) (https://www.imagevenue.com/ME12X504)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 30, 2021, 08:39:56 AM
@salvo, all

New ISO to test: https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-4-DEV-2-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on January 30, 2021, 08:47:39 AM
ok try it :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on January 30, 2021, 09:03:24 AM
deadwood, do not working :-\

(https://cdn-thumbs.imagevenue.com/34/8a/0e/ME12X5OI_t.png) (https://www.imagevenue.com/ME12X5OI)

(https://cdn-thumbs.imagevenue.com/a3/de/12/ME12X5ON_t.png) (https://www.imagevenue.com/ME12X5ON)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 30, 2021, 09:21:59 AM
Next ISO to test: https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-4-DEV-3-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on January 30, 2021, 09:38:12 AM
do not working deadwood

(https://cdn-thumbs.imagevenue.com/2b/8d/a4/ME12X5RA_t.png) (https://www.imagevenue.com/ME12X5RA)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 30, 2021, 09:53:54 AM
Can you post sashimi screen shot?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 30, 2021, 10:05:42 AM
Next ISO: https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-4-DEV-4-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on January 30, 2021, 10:14:18 AM
ok works fine :D
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 30, 2021, 10:18:57 AM
Glad to hear it.

@all, please also test DEV-4 on your real hardware.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on January 30, 2021, 10:41:32 AM
this iso in my system works fine deadwood :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on January 30, 2021, 04:00:26 PM
Glad to hear it.

@all, please also test DEV-4 on your real hardware.

With VMware everything is perfect audio included, with VirtualBox no audio

My PCs from the latest updates are no longer supported by AROS, I'll have to search for another PC
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 31, 2021, 12:55:50 AM
@AMIGASYSTEM

For VirtualBox can you make sure you have HDAudio selected in virtual machine settings - it may be that you have AC97 set. If it is set to HDAudio and still does not work, please follow these instructions to capture debug:

"Please boot the ISO with the default option in grub selected. Then start Development/Debug/Sachimi and make the window full screen. Then start AHI Prefs and press play test sound once. Post the screen shot showing content of sashimi please"

For your PCs can you explain more? Does the reference ISO (20161228-1) work on your PCs and the 20170402 no longer works? What are the symptoms?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on January 31, 2021, 04:38:52 AM
Thank you deadwood I will do as you say, found a supported PC "hp pavilion z73000" the audio works perfectly with all applications tested.

VirtualBox I have a Win7 32bit so I use a version 5.2.44, on the PC in addition to the integrated sound card, as main sound card I use a "Creative SB Audigy", for Amithlon on VirtualBox I used ICH AC97 controller and it worked well.

I enclose screenshots to show you the audio controllers, then you tell me on which one I should do the test, thanks

Regarding my PC it was a problem of the defective Pendrive, I reinstalled my AROS One with your Distro and now everything works perfectly, on my small Acer the audio worked perfectly see screenshot


EDIT:
Also tested my little "Dell Inspiron Mini 910" also here the audio works perfectly.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 31, 2021, 05:56:30 AM
@AMIGASYSTEM

Thanks for tests. For VirtualBox tests, select "Intel HD Audio".
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: mmartinka on January 31, 2021, 11:20:04 AM
I tested the sound card in the virtualbox. On the osx  10.9.5 system.
And this is my experience...

AC97 - VBox 5.1.x, sound is OK
AC97 - VBox 6.0.24, sound not play and the system freezes
AC97 - VBox 6.1.16, sound not play and the system freezes

Intel HD - VBox 5.1.x,  play but sound is damaged
Intel HD - VBox 6.0.24, sound not play and the system freezes
Intel HD - VBox 6.1.16, sound not play and the system freezes
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 31, 2021, 11:23:55 AM
@mmartinka

Thanks. AC97 is broken for VBox 6.x and will not work

For Intel HD, can you follow this procedure with 6.1.16 using DEV-4 ISO:

"Please boot the ISO with the default option in grub selected. Then start Development/Debug/Sachimi and make the window full screen. Then start AHI Prefs and press play test sound once. Post the screen shot showing content of sashimi please"
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on January 31, 2021, 12:54:56 PM
@AMIGASYSTEM

Thanks for tests. For VirtualBox tests, select "Intel HD Audio".

Perfect with "Intel HD Audio" now working well thanks to your DEV-4 ISO :)

Tested Audio and Video programs, Audio working both on Virtual Machines and real PC, thanks again for your great work !
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on January 31, 2021, 01:59:08 PM
@AMIGASYSTEM

Glad to hear that it is working.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: miker1264 on February 02, 2021, 02:28:38 PM
I would like to set up an ABIv0 Build System based on latest sources.

Where are the sources located? Are there any setup instructions/guide?

What is the setup target for x86?

I have several improved pic datatypes and SuperMultiView and a few other apps to contribute to 32bit ABIv0.

It would be much nicer to drop the sources in the Build System.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 03, 2021, 08:15:33 AM
hi Miker i see this

https://github.com/deadw00d/AROS/blob/alt-abiv0/INSTALL.md
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 03, 2021, 01:58:04 PM
Yes that is the correct instruction. If you want target names, get them from rebuild script :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: miker1264 on February 03, 2021, 02:31:11 PM
deadwood

Thank you for the clear and concise instructions for the Build System for ABIv0.

I have a Build System for AROS 64BIT and AROS 68k as well. I develop my code on 64bit then compile for 68k or 32bit as needed.

I originally started working on AROS about 4 yrs ago to help improve IcarosDesktop ABIv0 so here I am again.  :)

I have during that time updated several picture datatypes, revised MultiView by adding Save As PNG by datatype conversion. Save As IFF now works also. I added DT_WRITE for IFF to picture datatype.

One main reason for setting up the Build System to 32bit is to be able to compile and update my ShowPicture graphics program. It uses picture datatypes and it is capable of image manipulation including bitdepth conversion though I need to add color quantizing for 24bit to 8bit and for less than 8bit for ilbm conversion. It also uses Overlay Masking that I came up with and color shifting to produce png icons for AROS. I am experimenting with HSL colorgroup rotations and the HSL colorwheel for color transmations. Photoshop does it already but it's new for AROS.

Lots of icon and image functions to choose from.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 03, 2021, 02:41:30 PM
Great to hear that! Let me know if you have any questions about setup.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 03, 2021, 02:52:46 PM
20170402-4 ISO is now released and linked in first post. It contains the same HDAudio fixes as 4-DEV-4 ISO but without debug output.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 03, 2021, 03:45:40 PM
thank you :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: miker1264 on February 03, 2021, 03:49:16 PM
Thanks. I will download and try the new ISO.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 04, 2021, 08:24:57 AM
 @deadwood

Is there any way to add "file association" to Wanderer? for example Wanderer doesn't associate multimedia files like MP4, audio files like MED, S3M, SID and M3U, moreover it doesn't associate RAR Archives and 7z.

AROS x86 has the tools to manage these files, you just need the recognition, I attach video that shows the possible association !

File Associations on the Wandererer with AROS One x86: Tutorial Video (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dan-JPDi3R8198wsfj3QEIGfB6-QLkgZ/view?usp=sharing) (to see the video clear set in settings "720p")
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: miker1264 on February 04, 2021, 09:06:22 AM
@deadwood

To add to the previous question does Wanderer cache icon images for faster redisplay?

Or should that be a function of Icon Library? To caches images?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 04, 2021, 11:33:44 AM
@AMIGASYSTEM

I think associations are added via def Icons in ENV:SYS.

@miker1264

I don't know TBH which is the right place to cache.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 04, 2021, 02:50:35 PM
@AMIGASYSTEM

I think associations are added via def Icons in ENV:SYS.

No it works only on files known by AROS, in my system there are def_ icons of all common files, unsupported def icons are ignored, on AROS 68k I have solved using DefIcons (http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/DefIcons44) which allows you to add more associations.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: cavemann on February 04, 2021, 05:32:16 PM
Tested native hdaudio on iso 4.
This new driver fixes some audio glitches that's been bugging me for years.
Thanks, deadwood :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 04, 2021, 06:39:59 PM
@caveman

That's unintended but I'm glad never-the-less :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 05, 2021, 01:38:15 AM
@All

Here is an ISO with fix from Kalamatee for HDAudio under VMWare:

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-1-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

Please test if HDAudio still works on your hardware and whether it also works under VMWare now.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 05, 2021, 02:04:19 AM
Thanks deadwood, anyway with your DEV-4 ISO the audio worked fine on VMWare !
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 05, 2021, 02:10:23 AM
Ok, I didn't know that. Which version of VMWare you are using?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 05, 2021, 02:21:37 AM
Latest compatible with a 32 Bit system VMWare v6.0.7 build-2844087.

You can see how the audio works in my video I posted above THIS (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dan-JPDi3R8198wsfj3QEIGfB6-QLkgZ/view)







Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 05, 2021, 02:42:34 PM
Tested 5-DEV-1 and the audio worked fine on my VMWare, VirtualBox and PC Real Netbooks DELL Inspiron Mini 910
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: miker1264 on February 05, 2021, 03:23:09 PM
AMIGASYSTEM

Very nice! The sound is excellent.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 05, 2021, 05:30:51 PM
Even on the Real PC " Netbooks DELL Inspiron Mini 910" you can hear the audio very well, you can see  HERE (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ke3mhGoQO2IZ9PKJaXp_Nth3FDO8IZb6/view) a small demonstration video.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 06, 2021, 01:47:59 AM
Tested 5-DEV-1 and the audio worked fine on my VMWare, VirtualBox and PC Real Netbooks DELL Inspiron Mini 910

Thank you for testing!
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 13, 2021, 03:01:20 PM
Hi All,

There is new version to test:

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-2-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

This version fixes USB 2.0 under VIrtualBox, but due to nature of changes it can break USB 2.0 for you hardware. Please test if you can still read/write pen drives on your hardware.

Note: this version has debug enabled - do not install it over your standard AROS installation.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 13, 2021, 03:22:24 PM
ok try it :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 13, 2021, 03:36:37 PM
deadwood do not work the usb pendrive/hd on my real hardware
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 13, 2021, 03:38:13 PM
@salvo

Do the work with this ISO:
https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-1-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 13, 2021, 03:44:07 PM
one moment deadwood
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 13, 2021, 03:48:18 PM
yes works fine
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 13, 2021, 03:50:25 PM
Can you tell me you USB chipset VendorID/ProductID? You should be able to read it from PCITool.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 13, 2021, 03:59:39 PM
ok

serial usb uhci

vendorid 0x8086
productid 0x2830, 0x2831, 0x2832

serial usb ehci

vendorid 0x8086
productid 0x2836

Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 13, 2021, 04:02:28 PM
Thanks. Tomorrow I will provide new ISOs to test.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 13, 2021, 04:03:52 PM
ok deadwood hi
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: miker1264 on February 13, 2021, 08:11:40 PM
@deadwood

I have a question about the ISO images.

Are the ABIv0 images using Grub Bootloader or Grub2 ?

We have a small problem with Nightlies for ABIv1 not booting. They stop at Grub. I suspect the bootloader has a problem.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: magorium on February 13, 2021, 08:55:19 PM
Are the ABIv0 images using Grub Bootloader or Grub2 ?
I can answer that for you as well and if you don't mind me doing so: that would be grub2 (has been so for years)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 02:43:13 AM
@salvo

Here are 3 more ISOs, please test each one of them and le me know where USB pen drive works and where not.

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-3-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-4-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-5-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

@all

Please try DEV-2 ISO on your hardware and report back if USB pen drives still work for you.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 14, 2021, 06:16:14 AM
deadwood I tried the first two iso DEV-3 / DEV-4 now I no longer have cd to burn, however in these two isos the pendrives / hd do not work
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 06:21:58 AM
Can you boot from DEV-3 and DEV-4 and capture sashimi output as you insert pendrive?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 14, 2021, 06:53:47 AM
ok
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 14, 2021, 07:06:53 AM
i can't debug deadwood, an infinite series of strings comes out in the sashimi output window
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 14, 2021, 08:07:31 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvZBVJjW/2021-USB-test.png)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 08:15:47 AM
@aGGreSSor

Thanks for tests. What is the difference between first and second test - both seems to be using same USB drive and same VMWare 15 Player?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 08:17:59 AM
i can't debug deadwood, an infinite series of strings comes out in the sashimi output window

Please start sashimi from shell like this:

sashimi > ram:out.txt

And them upload somewhere the resulting text file for me to examine.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 14, 2021, 08:34:00 AM
@aGGreSSor
Thanks for tests. What is the difference between first and second test - both seems to be using same USB drive and same VMWare 15 Player?
My motherboard (Gigabyte H370M DS3H) has USB 2.0 (black) and USB 3.0 ports (blue).
I tried in 1st test with USB 2.0 port and 2nd test with USB 3.0 port.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 08:42:43 AM
Now I see, thanks
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 09:02:03 AM
@aGGreSSor

Can you capture sashimi output from DEV-4 and 2.0 port when pluggin in USB drive?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 09:26:37 AM
@aGGreSSor

Can you try DEV-6:

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-6-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

If your disk in 2.0 port still does not work, can you capture debug?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 14, 2021, 09:27:58 AM
@aGGreSSor

Can you capture sashimi output from DEV-4 and 2.0 port when pluggin in USB drive?
Please start sashimi from shell like this:
sashimi > ram:out.txt
And them upload somewhere the resulting text file for me to examine.
Sashimi, little information is recorded.
VMware 15 in USB 3.0 mode, DEV-5
Code: [Select]
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
Sashimi installed ([Ctrl]+C or "Break 1" to remove)
Sashimi removed.
VMware 15 in USB 2.0 mode, DEV-4
Code: [Select]
INT=C004
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 1 Change 00001003
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 2 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 3 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 4 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 5 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 6 Change 00001000
hub_nHubTask/535: Port changed at 00000002, Numports=6!
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 0109e688, 4)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
hub_nConfigurePort/1148: Configuring port 1 of hub 0x0102f204
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 0109e5ec, 4)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
hub_nConfigurePort/1160: Status 0x0101, change 0x0000
hub_nConfigurePort/1182: There's something at port 1!
hub_nConfigurePort/1186: A
hub_nConfigurePort/1195: B
hub_nConfigurePort/1202: C
hub_nConfigurePort/1204: C1
hub_nConfigurePort/1207: C2
hub_nConfigurePort/1210: C3
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=3
hub_nConfigurePort/1212: C4
hub_nConfigurePort/1218: PORT_RESET failed 3.
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
hub_nConfigurePort/1375: Y
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
hub_nConfigurePort/1388: Z
  psd_28_psdSendPipe/4179: psdSendPipe(0102f344, 0102f26c, 1)
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C004
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 1 Change 0000110A
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 2 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 3 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 4 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 5 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 6 Change 00001000
hub_nHubTask/535: Port changed at 00000002, Numports=6!
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 0109e688, 4)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_28_psdSendPipe/4179: psdSendPipe(0102f344, 0102f26c, 1)
INT=C004
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 1 Change 00001103
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 2 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 3 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 4 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 5 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 6 Change 00001000
hub_nHubTask/535: Port changed at 00000002, Numports=6!
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 0109e688, 4)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
INT=C004
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 1 Change 0000110A
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 2 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 3 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 4 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 5 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 6 Change 00001000
hub_nConfigurePort/1148: Configuring port 1 of hub 0x0102f204
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 0109e5ec, 4)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
hub_nConfigurePort/1160: Status 0x0110, change 0x0003
hub_nConfigurePort/1388: Z
  psd_28_psdSendPipe/4179: psdSendPipe(0102f344, 0102f26c, 1)
hub_nHubTask/535: Port changed at 00000002, Numports=6!
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 0109e688, 4)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_28_psdSendPipe/4179: psdSendPipe(0102f344, 0102f26c, 1)
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C004
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 1 Change 00001103
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 2 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 3 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 4 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 5 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 6 Change 00001000
hub_nHubTask/535: Port changed at 00000002, Numports=6!
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 0109e688, 4)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
INT=C008
hub_nConfigurePort/1148: Configuring port 1 of hub 0x0102f204
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 0109e5ec, 4)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
hub_nConfigurePort/1160: Status 0x0111, change 0x0000
hub_nConfigurePort/1182: There's something at port 1!
hub_nConfigurePort/1186: A
hub_nConfigurePort/1195: B
hub_nConfigurePort/1202: C
hub_nConfigurePort/1204: C1
hub_nConfigurePort/1207: C2
hub_nConfigurePort/1210: C3
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=3
hub_nConfigurePort/1212: C4
hub_nConfigurePort/1218: PORT_RESET failed 3.
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
hub_nConfigurePort/1375: Y
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
  psd_27_psdDoPipe/4140: psdDoPipe(0102f294, 00000000, 0)
  psd_30_psdWaitPipe/4295: psdWaitPipe(0102f294)=0
hub_nConfigurePort/1388: Z
  psd_28_psdSendPipe/4179: psdSendPipe(0102f344, 0102f26c, 1)
INT=C008
Sashimi installed ([Ctrl]+C or "Break 8" to remove)
Sashimi removed.

By the way, InstallAROS doesn't copy "Development" directory when it checked.
In ISO-files of the directory "Development" corresponds to the icon "Developer.info".
Also there isn't enough curl utility to transfer the report outside.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 09:33:39 AM
Ok, it's like I though - port reset failed. I'm interested to see what DEV-6 shows.

Thanks for report on InstallAROS, I will fix that.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 14, 2021, 09:36:30 AM
@aGGreSSor
Can you try DEV-6:
https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-6-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip
If your disk in 2.0 port still does not work, can you capture debug?
DEV-6 found pen only with USB 1.1 and none in USB 2.0 and USB 3.0.

USB 3.0 mode
Code: [Select]
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
Sashimi installed ([Ctrl]+C or "Break 1" to remove)
Sashimi removed.

USB 2.0 mode
Code: [Select]
INT=C004
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 1 Change 00001003
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 2 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 3 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 4 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 5 Change 00001000
ehciIntCode/1240: PCI Int Port 6 Change 00001000
hub_nHubTask/535: Port changed at 00000002, Numports=6!
hub_nConfigurePort/1148: Configuring port 1 of hub 0x0102f204
hub_nConfigurePort/1160: Status 0x0101, change 0x0000
hub_nConfigurePort/1182: There's something at port 1!
hub_nConfigurePort/1186: A
hub_nConfigurePort/1195: B
hub_nConfigurePort/1202: C
hub_nConfigurePort/1204: C1
hub_nConfigurePort/1207: C2
hub_nConfigurePort/1210: C3
cmdControlXFerRootHub/796: EHCI: Resetting Port (ok)
cmdControlXFerRootHub/799: EHCI: Port status=00001001
cmdControlXFerRootHub/805: EHCI: Reset=BAD!
cmdControlXFerRootHub/810: EHCI: Reset=BAD!
cmdControlXFerRootHub/811: EHCI: Highspeed=NO
cmdControlXFerRootHub/812: EHCI: Port status=00001101
cmdControlXFerRootHub/816: EHCI: Transferring ownership to UHCI/OHCI port 0
cmdControlXFerRootHub/821: EHCI has no companion controller, can't transfer ownership!
hub_nConfigurePort/1212: C4
hub_nConfigurePort/1218: PORT_RESET failed 3.
hub_nConfigurePort/1375: Y
hub_nConfigurePort/1388: Z
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
Sashimi installed ([Ctrl]+C or "Break 1" to remove)
Sashimi removed.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 09:53:29 AM
DEV-7

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-7-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

Same test please.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 14, 2021, 10:05:06 AM
DEV-7
https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-7-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip
Same test please.
USB 2.0 mode work (attachment)!
USB 3.0 none:
Code: [Select]
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
INT=C008
Sashimi installed ([Ctrl]+C or "Break 1" to remove)
Sashimi removed.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 10:10:19 AM
Great!

Salvo, can you check DEV-7 on your hardware?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 14, 2021, 11:21:23 AM
Tested DEV-7 on VMWare 6.0.7

USB3, works after a reset but only the first time, started AROS, did the mounting from VMWare menu, the Pendrive is not detected, closed WMWare and restarted the ISO and the Pendrive is mounted automatically

USB 1.1 and USB2, no problem, started AROS and mounted the Pendrive from VMWare menu and it is mounted immediately.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 11:39:01 AM
@AMIGASYSTEM

Thx
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 14, 2021, 11:51:02 AM
deadwood i can't test now i don't have cd to burn
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 11:51:42 AM
@Salvo

Ok, I understand.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 14, 2021, 11:53:48 AM
tomorrow I can excuse me
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 14, 2021, 12:01:15 PM
i found a cd i can do the test
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 14, 2021, 12:18:16 PM
do not work deadwood :-\
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 12:59:40 PM
Did you try DEV-7?

Please post sashimi debug output.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 14, 2021, 01:13:35 PM
ok
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 01:17:18 PM
Can you try capturing the debug to file?

Please start sashimi from shell like this:

sashimi > ram:out.txt
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 14, 2021, 01:22:13 PM
ok sorry
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 14, 2021, 01:40:06 PM
deadwood this is ok?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 14, 2021, 02:01:20 PM
Did you try DEV-7?

Please post sashimi debug output.

Yes used DEV-7.

sashimi debug output.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 14, 2021, 02:06:25 PM
@salvo

Yes, that is exactly what I needed. I will review log and prepare new ISOs in coming days. I suggest buying CD-RW / DVD-RW - no point wasting blank CDs for tests ;)

@AMIGASYSTEM

Thanks. I see all works for you.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 14, 2021, 02:40:01 PM
yes deadwood will be done  :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 15, 2021, 06:32:38 AM
if you wrap the cdrw become unusable for this I used the cdr
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: mmartinka on February 15, 2021, 10:03:53 AM
@mmartinka

Thanks. AC97 is broken for VBox 6.x and will not work

For Intel HD, can you follow this procedure with 6.1.16 using DEV-4 ISO:

"Please boot the ISO with the default option in grub selected. Then start Development/Debug/Sachimi and make the window full screen. Then start AHI Prefs and press play test sound once. Post the screen shot showing content of sashimi please"

Im sorry for mystification, I did not know about new CD DEV5-2. With the CD DEV5-2 the sound (Intel HD) is works well. Test DEV5-2 - the usb 1.1 mount and unmount works okay, but usb 2.0 mount OK, unmount does not removed device from system. Device is on wanderer desktop still.

Upss - You have new test CD DEV  :o
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 15, 2021, 10:57:21 AM
@mmartinka
Yes there is the DEV7 is found in the previous pages

@deadwood
I'm sorry but I think that the link of the new DEV is better to post them in the first page so that they are easy to find again
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 15, 2021, 12:26:02 PM
@mmartinka

Thanks

@AMIGASYSTEM

Those DEV-x ISOs are not for general usage (they have specific debug enabled) so I don't want people downloading them by mistake and damaging their system.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 15, 2021, 12:40:21 PM
Ok thanks deadwood, i meanwhile with your DEV-7 update my AROS One, integrated support US3 and works perfectly :)

Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 15, 2021, 04:07:34 PM
On PC DELL Mini and ACER One Real with DEV-7 AROS One does not start the screen remains in the eyes of the cat ...

If I restore DEV-4 USB Drivers, DELL Mini and ACER One boot up quietly.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: miker1264 on February 15, 2021, 05:51:41 PM
Ok thanks deadwood, i meanwhile with your DEV-7 update my AROS One, integrated support US3 and works perfectly :)

@AMIGASYSTEM

Did you mean to say 'USB3' support is working? Aren't you testing USB2 support? I could be wrong...
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 15, 2021, 06:12:44 PM
Yes USB3 works but only on WMWare, see screenshot !
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: miker1264 on February 15, 2021, 06:26:33 PM
So does AROS have USB3 drivers or VMWare controller is USB3 but AROS uses devices attached to the controller as USB2 ?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 16, 2021, 03:12:11 AM
Yes as said above to me on my version of 6.0.7 of VMWare works well USB2 and USB3

On VirtualBox v5.2.44 USB2 and USB3 does not work
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on February 16, 2021, 05:46:04 AM
Installing this ISO to DELL Latitdue D520. https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-7-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

Showconfig in Tools, nothing happening trying to start prog. SysExplorer I get this Failture.
https://files.fm/u/y8etwevjn

USB, FAT32 formated storage drive get detected by Poseidon but not mounted by the system.

Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 16, 2021, 06:17:39 AM
If it is of interest, ISO DEV-7 on WMWare SysExplorer works fine !
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 16, 2021, 12:41:19 PM
On PC DELL Mini and ACER One Real with DEV-7 AROS One does not start the screen remains in the eyes of the cat ...

If I restore DEV-4 USB Drivers, DELL Mini and ACER One boot up quietly.

Do you boot both computers from CD-ROM connected to USB?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 16, 2021, 12:46:40 PM
@all

I confirmed on my DELL laptops that DEV-7 is broken. I know what the problem is and I will publish next ISO for tests in coming days.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: magorium on February 16, 2021, 07:41:18 PM
fwiw

test: dev7-deadw00d
host: linux64 debian deriviate
vm: virtualbox 6.1.18
usb 3.x: not detected at all (should it ?)
usb 2.x: detected but IO error on installing to USB pendrive (same as it always did with vbox)
usb 1.x: detected, installed to USB pendrive (same as it always did with vbox)
hdaudio: seem to work as expected

Native Boot:
Loops through usb controller devices, lots of output (too fast to read) for what seems like ages to finally up at the cat-eyes, expecting me to insert a bootable device.

note:
Icaros desktop 2.2.x boots and runs perfectly native from the same USB header, same goes for Icaros Desktop 2.3.

detail:
Mobile Intel HM55 Express Chipset, officially does not have USB 3.x support according to the specs but seems a custom add-on from the manufacturer (ASRock).
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 17, 2021, 01:37:18 PM
Hello,

New ISO for testing. This ISO should have USB 2.0 working under VMWare, VirtualBox and real hardware where it was already working (solving regression introduced in DEV-2)

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-8-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

Also fixes icon for Development directory and makes development files being installed with InstallAROS.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: magorium on February 17, 2021, 03:53:17 PM
Thank you deadw00d

This ISO should have USB 2.0 working under VMWare, VirtualBox and real hardware ..
If i select USB 2.0 controller in virtualbox then i am unable to wipe the disk.

I can produce an exact error message in case that i more convenient for you, but the gist of it is that aros report that is unable to access usbscsii device number 0, named du0 (while it is actually there as reported by hd-toolbox/info command).

Selecting USB 1.0 controller, and wiping the disk works as expected (and as it did before).



In conclusion:
test: dev8-deadw00d
host: linux64 debian deriviate
vm: virtualbox 6.1.18
usb 3.x: not detected at all (should it ?)
usb 2.x: detected but IO error on installing to USB pendrive (same as it always did with vbox). (?) Additionally now unable to wipe the disk.
usb 1.x: detected, installed to USB pendrive (same as it always did with vbox)
hdaudio: seem to work as expected

Native Boot:
Boots as expected. All tested software (wanderer, cli, hdtoolbox, sysmon, sysexplorer, demo's, hdaudio) works as expected. No extensive or specific tests where done.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 17, 2021, 04:02:56 PM
New ISO for testing. This ISO should have USB 2.0 working under VMWare, VirtualBox and real hardware where it was already working (solving regression introduced in DEV-2)
(https://i.postimg.cc/J4rZwsy6/DEV-8-test.png)

VirtualBox USB 1.1 permanently work
(https://i.postimg.cc/bwMt2LmW/vbox-usb11-test.png)

VirtualBox USB 1.1 Sashimi
(https://i.postimg.cc/8ctFkbFy/vbox-usb11-sashimi.png)

In the DEV-8 image the network stopped working "out of the box" and the problem with frozen in Warm restart returned (Quick test: "reboot" and press Enter from CLI).

InstallAROS installed Debugging tools, thank you! Unfortunately without a working network and USB Pen, it's useless.
I dragged reports through the Hard drive, but under the VirtualBox they had a size of 0 after rebooting from HDD.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 17, 2021, 04:04:08 PM
Hello,

New ISO for testing. This ISO should have USB 2.0 working under VMWare, VirtualBox and real hardware where it was already working (solving regression introduced in DEV-2)

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-8-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

Also fixes icon for Development directory and makes development files being installed with InstallAROS.

OK thank you

With DEV-8

VMWare 6.0.7=  Works well  USB1.1,  USB2.0 and  USB3.0

ACER Aspire One ZG5=  Works well  USB, Audio Card, Video Card, WiFi and Touchpad

Dell Inspiron Mini 910=  Works well  USB, Audio Card, Video Card, Touchpad No WiFi

Samsung R730= Works well  USB, Audio Card, No Video Card, WiFi, Touchpad
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on February 17, 2021, 04:57:19 PM
Thanks Deadwood.

DELL Latitude D520, USB is working as normal again.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 17, 2021, 11:39:14 PM
@all

Thanks for testing

@aGGreSSor

I reviewed past post and it looks like USB 2.0 under VirtualBox was working for you in DEV-3, DEV-5 and DEV-7. Do I read correctly that DEV-8 is a regression for you?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 18, 2021, 03:25:37 AM
Thank you deadw00d

If i select USB 2.0 controller in virtualbox then i am unable to wipe the disk.

I can produce an exact error message in case that i more convenient for you, but the gist of it is that aros report that is unable to access usbscsii device number 0, named du0 (while it is actually there as reported by hd-toolbox/info command).


Does partitioning from HDToolBox work? Is this just InstallAROS problem or general problem with partitioning?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 18, 2021, 05:53:31 AM
ok deadwood i have no more problems with usb ports :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 18, 2021, 06:12:33 AM
I reviewed past post and it looks like USB 2.0 under VirtualBox was working for you in DEV-3, DEV-5 and DEV-7. Do I read correctly that DEV-8 is a regression for you?
No, they didn't work under VirtualBox, but it seems USB devices were at least bound to classes and with DEV-8, this definitely doesn't happen. Apparently for me the best was DEV-7 under VMware 15 Player. As far as I can tell, Poseidon is sorting through the drivers to play its own sound about connecting the USB device by default, that's all that can be seen.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on February 18, 2021, 10:04:24 AM
@nikos

Hello Nikos, good to see you back. What network device did you use on your laptop?

Yes, correct as Salvo said, Atheros.
With Power Off my laptop freeze. Restart Computer, Restart AROS works perfect.
Are some things faster now? Everything seams stable and fast :)
I write this from Odyssey on your nice build :)

Edit: Great news :) It is definatly faster!!  I had a video where I recorded GPmark tests around 3 years ago. All tests with Deadwoods latest builds show a boost at around 10%. That is massive :)

I had some time to test a little now. I forgot that I changed the CPU on the laptop so it is not faster than before. I do not want to spread false info. The speed with latest backports from abi v.1 is exactly the same as from some years back regarding 3D, fps. This is IntelGMA.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 18, 2021, 10:56:14 AM

I had some time to test a little now. I forgot that I changed the CPU on the laptop so it is not faster than before. I do not want to spread false info. The speed with latest backports from abi v.1 is exactly the same as from some years back regarding 3D, fps. This is IntelGMA.

Thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 18, 2021, 10:59:13 AM
ok deadwood i have no more problems with usb ports :)

Thx
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 18, 2021, 11:01:20 AM
I reviewed past post and it looks like USB 2.0 under VirtualBox was working for you in DEV-3, DEV-5 and DEV-7. Do I read correctly that DEV-8 is a regression for you?
No, they didn't work under VirtualBox, but it seems USB devices were at least bound to classes and with DEV-8, this definitely doesn't happen. Apparently for me the best was DEV-7 under VMware 15 Player. As far as I can tell, Poseidon is sorting through the drivers to play its own sound about connecting the USB device by default, that's all that can be seen.

What is your host operating system?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 18, 2021, 11:07:43 AM
I reviewed past post and it looks like USB 2.0 under VirtualBox was working for you in DEV-3, DEV-5 and DEV-7. Do I read correctly that DEV-8 is a regression for you?
No, they didn't work under VirtualBox, but it seems USB devices were at least bound to classes and with DEV-8, this definitely doesn't happen. Apparently for me the best was DEV-7 under VMware 15 Player. As far as I can tell, Poseidon is sorting through the drivers to play its own sound about connecting the USB device by default, that's all that can be seen.
What is your host operating system?
Windows 10 Home Single Language (Russian)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 18, 2021, 01:17:23 PM
@magorium

I can confirm the I/O error during copying, though wiping USB pendrive works for me.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 18, 2021, 02:07:33 PM
@magorium, aGGreSSor

Please try DEV-9 under VirtualBox

On my setup (Linux Mint 20.1 host/VBox 6.1.18) I'm now able to format and do a full installation to USB pen drive under VirtualBox. Next I'm able to boot from PEN drive (load kickstart from CDROM, go to bootmenu and select pen drive for system booting)

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-9-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 18, 2021, 02:41:36 PM
DEV-9 on my VirtualBox doesn't work with USB 2.0 and USB 3.0, it only works with USB 1.1

With VMWare, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0, as always work perfectly.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 18, 2021, 02:44:10 PM
DEV-9 on my VirtualBox doesn't work with USB 2.0 and USB 3.0, it only works with USB 1.1

With VMWare, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0, as always work perfectly.

Which version worked for you in VirtualBox with USB 2.0?
Which version of VirtualBox are you using?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 18, 2021, 03:13:21 PM
On my VirtualBX v5.2.44 r139111,  con anyone DEV has it ever worked USB2.0 e USB3.0, only USB 1.1 worked
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: magorium on February 18, 2021, 03:14:23 PM
Sorry for the delay deadw00d.

@magorium

I can confirm the I/O error during copying, though wiping USB pendrive works for me.
It is a very weird phenomenon. I am able to reproduce the wipe error with dev-8 and virtualbox USB 2.x controller. Switching to usb 1.x controller just wipes the disk as expected. With dev-7 i was able to wipe the disk (both USB 1.x and 2.x virtualbox controller) without issues (but it might be i was lucky on my tries) but AROS "lost" the pendrive device during boot (insert bootable medium / cat-eyes)..

If you are interested we can explore this further in that i provide some additional output/screenshots for you. But...


test: dev9-deadw00d
host: linux64 debian deriviate
vm: virtualbox 6.1.18
usb 3.x: not tested
usb 2.x: detected. installed to USB pendrive ok.
usb 1.x: not tested

Native Boot:
Boots perfectly from USB-pendrive. Only quickly tested Wanderer, HDToolbox and cli. All those seems to work as expected.


That is a big thank you from me as i am now for the very first time ever with AROS able to get USB speeds when using virtualbox... (and darn, that is faaaast  :) )
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 18, 2021, 03:18:51 PM
On my VirtualBX v5.2.44 r139111,  con anyone DEV has it ever worked USB2.0 e USB3.0, only USB 1.1 worked

Ok, I see. I won't be able to add support for VBox 5.x. I'm only fixing support for 6.x.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 18, 2021, 03:20:15 PM
@magorium

I'm glad it worked. DEV-9 has debug enabled so better not use it for your main installation. I will prepare ISO with a clean fix.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 18, 2021, 03:27:05 PM
@magorium, aGGreSSor

Please try DEV-9 under VirtualBox

On my setup (Linux Mint 20.1 host/VBox 6.1.18) I'm now able to format and do a full installation to USB pen drive under VirtualBox. Next I'm able to boot from PEN drive (load kickstart from CDROM, go to bootmenu and select pen drive for system booting)

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-9-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnC2Y5mW/Test19-02-21.png)

VMware - stable work USB 1.1 and USB 2.0
VBox 6.1 - trash, sodom and gomorrah

USB 1.1 и USB 2.0 in VBox 6.1 buggy like this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/NMTbd2Q7/VBox-usb11-fault.png)
(https://i.postimg.cc/bYx3bnCq/VBox-usb11-fault2.png)

Imho, AROS under VBox competes/fights with Windows for USB Pen.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qMmcXx8H/VBox-usb11-2-devices.png)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 18, 2021, 03:35:40 PM
@aGGreSSor

Yes, there is definatelly something wrong with installation. You now have issues even with 1.1 which everyone else reports as working. Also DEV-9 has no changes to OHCI that could cause problems with 1.1. Maybe you can try re-installing VirtualBox and/or re-install Extensions Package?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 18, 2021, 03:52:50 PM
@aGGreSSor

Yes, there is definatelly something wrong with installation. You now have issues even with 1.1 which everyone else reports as working. Also DEV-9 has no changes to OHCI that could cause problems with 1.1. Maybe you can try re-installing VirtualBox and/or re-install Extensions Package?

UPDATE

I groped in what case USB1.1 and USB2.0 mode works with DEV-9.

The following algorithm should be used:

0. Close all Explorer window (!)
1. Start VBox
2. Plug USB Pen in USB 2.0 compatibly slot (USB 3.0 compatibly don't work)
3. Select USB Pen from VBox menu
4. See Window "It is bound to masstorage.class" (doesn't close itself!) - click "Save Prefs" and click "Close"
5. AROS extremely slows down
6. USB Pen open, but AROS crashes when opening a Wanderer menu

Example USB 1.1 in VBox 6.1
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVPWTBvQ/VBox-usb11-open.png)

Example USB 2.0 in VBox 6.1
(https://i.postimg.cc/cJTT2G36/VBox-usb20-open.png)

USB 3.0 in VBox dont't work and doesn't affect the speed of cursor movement.

In short conclusion: the rest most likely do not have real USB 3 ports on the motherboard)
I confirmed my idea about the competition for USB Port: when starting a VBox, all explorer windows must be closed.
But even in this case, it will only work if USB Pen inserted into port USB 2.0 (not USB 3.0 type)

In the case of VMware Player, you don't have to think about it, there USB (as I tested) works the same for both types of ports.
Also VMware Player doesn't require explorer windows to be closed.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 18, 2021, 04:02:07 PM
Good to see progress. The crash may be due to debug enabled.

With regards to hardware USB 3.0 ports, it might be Windows-related. I do all the testing with pendrive plugged into USB 3.0 port and VBox still works for me.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: magorium on February 18, 2021, 05:22:54 PM
With regards to hardware USB 3.0 ports, it might be Windows-related. I do all the testing with pendrive plugged into USB 3.0 port and VBox still works for me.
I did my tests also on a USB 3.0 port. The pendrive that i tested is USB 2.x though. I don't have any free true 3.x devices around to be able to test atm.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 19, 2021, 10:09:39 AM
Hi All,

DEV-10, hopefully last one before the final release

https://axrt.org/development/AROS-20170402-5-DEV-10-pc-i386-boot-iso.zip

Essentially there should be no regression for hardware where 20170402-4 works, but in addtion USB2.0 under VIrtualBox should work to the point of installing AROS on pen drive. Please test your hardware for regression.

My reference configuration for VirtualBox is: Linux Mint 20.1 64-bit, VirtualBox 6.1.18
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: Amiwell on February 19, 2021, 10:52:48 AM
ok test on my real hardware

wifi atheros ok
usb ok
hdaudio ok

system run fine :)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: magorium on February 19, 2021, 05:52:30 PM
test: dev10-deadw00d
host: linux64 debian deriviate
vm: virtualbox 6.1.18
usb 3.x: not detected
usb 2.x: detected. installed to USB pendrive ok.
usb 1.x: detected. installed to USB pendrive ok.

Native Boot:
Boots and works without issues for me from USB-pendrive.

I have not been able to test everything into detail but the normal things such as wanderer, hdtoolbox, sysexplorer, pci-tool, acpi-tool and the demo's work as expected (even though i do question some of the graphics output, but that has been the case as far as i am able to remember).

Notably i tested the smp demo's (is it enabled ?) and hdaudio, which worked ok for me.

Notably not tested is networking, because my azurewave is not supported and i do not have a network-cable in the room for the machine i tested on to be able to check my realtec network-card. Also notably not tested because not supported is native graphics (NVIDIA Geforce GT425M).


PS: i did some research on virtualbox with regards to Agressors issues and i did came across a bug-report icw (explicitly mentioned as particular issue for) Windows 10 home and USB (e.g. advise from bugtracker is to install win 10 pro and the issue is gone). Stupid me did forgot to bookmark the report, but thought to mention it so you won't be chasing ghosts. I can try to dig the report up again if wanted (it seems to be a longstanding issues that gets closed over and over, and users do not seem to agree and put it back on their bugtracker)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 19, 2021, 11:27:10 PM
test: dev10-deadw00d
host: linux64 debian deriviate
vm: virtualbox 6.1.18
usb 3.x: not detected
usb 2.x: detected. installed to USB pendrive ok.
usb 1.x: detected. installed to USB pendrive ok.

Test: DEV10-deadw00d
Host: Windows 10 Home Single Languane (Russian)
VM: VirtualBox 6.1.4 r136177 (Qt5.6.2)
USB 3.0: not detected
USB 2.0: Plug detection work. Slowing down AROS after plug. Copy to USB pen don't work.
USB 1.1: Plug detection work. Slowing down AROS after plug. Copy to USB pen don't work.

Copying to USB Pen under AROS looks working. I copied the sashimi reports to USB pen. After copying, I close the VBox, unplug/plug USB Pen under Windows and there is nothing on USB Pen. Maybe with another USB Pen or under other Windows it works, I don't know.

e.g. advise from bugtracker is to install win 10 pro and the issue is gone
Impossible. It would take a week to migrate all the specific Windows software and my data I need to work on a new operating system. If the Windows were not fed now I would be under Linux and the problems of Windows wouldn't be interesting to me. :)

it seems to be a longstanding issues that gets closed over and over, and users do not seem to agree and put it back on their bugtracker
Most likely it is. OEM Windows and Windows Home Language is the most common Windows.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 20, 2021, 12:33:15 AM
@all

Thanks for final tests.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 20, 2021, 02:45:58 AM
If you are interested, tested DEV-10 with "VMWare 6.0.7".

USB1.1, 2.0 and 3.0 Pendrive reading OK

AROS installation on USB 2.0 Pendrive during installation detected writing problems, with USB 1.1 no problem, the installation on Pendriver was successful
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: nikos on February 20, 2021, 05:49:27 AM
Same as last one with latest build.

The showconfig. sysexplorer problems.

Rest is good.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 20, 2021, 07:27:01 AM
I have updated my virtualbox to version 6.1.18 r142142 (Qt5.6.2) and copying to USB Pen worked (USB 2.0 port)! On this occasion, I recorded two videos:


In DEV-10 Warm Restart works (resolved)!
Tools/ShowConfig doesn't work for me either...
Tools/SysExplorer works (but USB Pen doesn't see)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: magorium on February 20, 2021, 07:43:48 AM
fwiw: showconfig does work when invoked from a shell window, but indeed i am also unable to start it from the icon. Increasing the stacksize by factor 10 did not solve that.


@aggressor:
Quote
Impossible. It would take a week to migrate all the specific Windows software and my data I need to work on a new operating system. If the Windows were not fed now I would be under Linux and the problems of Windows wouldn't be interesting to me.
Yeah, i know :-(

It is a non-solution for most people.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 20, 2021, 08:08:43 AM
fwiw: showconfig does work when invoked from a shell window, but indeed i am also unable to start it from the icon. Increasing the stacksize by factor 10 did not solve that.

No no it's a Stack problem, ShowConfig works fine, the problem are the AROS icons where some functions present on OS3 are missing, to work ShowConfig needs the parameter "CLI" in the Toltypes, that you have to add manually, same thing of the Workbench Programs where in some cases you need the parameter "WB".

In my screnshot ShowConfig worked fine after adding the CLI parameter in the Tooltypes.

(https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=632.0;attach=810;image)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 20, 2021, 09:54:09 AM
No no it's a Stack problem, ShowConfig works fine, the problem are the AROS icons where some functions present on OS3 are missing, to work ShowConfig needs the parameter "CLI" in the Toltypes, that you have to add manually, same thing of the Workbench Programs where in some cases you need the parameter "WB".
No. ShowConfig just supports the definition of running from WB or not. If ShowConfig finds that was launched from WB, will open its own window.
(https://i.postimg.cc/d3VVYWjs/AROS-Show-Config.png)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 20, 2021, 10:18:19 AM
To me ShowConfig but also other applications will never start without the CLI in the toolypes, even on OS3.9 ShowConfig needs that Option has Shell in the Tooltypes, on OS 3.9 also works without CLI parameter, so on AROS there is some problem?
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 20, 2021, 10:43:02 AM
To me ShowConfig but also other applications will never start without the CLI in the toolypes, even on OS3.9 ShowConfig needs that Option has Shell in the Tooltypes, on OS 3.9 also works without CLI parameter, so on AROS there is some problem?
Look at the title bar of window in my screenshot. It's not written there "Output window".
This is because ShowConfig when it is launched from WB should open the following (https://github.com/aros-development-team/AROS/blob/master/workbench/tools/ShowConfig/ShowConfig.c):
Code: [Select]
char __stdiowin[]="CON://800/400/ShowConfig/AUTO/CLOSE/WAIT"
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on February 20, 2021, 10:50:18 AM
Thanks, yes I noticed the title on the bar, on AROS One on many Icons I had to use CLI in the Tooltype, so "in general" with this kind of applications how should I proceed without using CLI in the Tooltype?

I'm not a developer or just found some workarounds to make them work.
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: aGGreSSor on February 20, 2021, 01:02:16 PM
Thanks, yes I noticed the title on the bar, on AROS One on many Icons I had to use CLI in the Tooltype, so "in general" with this kind of applications how should I proceed without using CLI in the Tooltype?

I'm not a developer or just found some workarounds to make them work.
Developer is a big word for most people I know, myself included.  ;)
If it works, then it is correct (binary logic). I can't tell you why it works, because should have worked differently.
I suspect that launch from WB don't works because last ShowConfig wasn't compiled under AROS and __AMIGA__ not defined.
I may be wrong, but something is near.

Strictly speaking, in order for the ToolType to work, it must be found and parsed.
The function FindToolType (http://amigadev.elowar.com/read/ADCD_2.1/Includes_and_Autodocs_3._guide/node0349.html) or MatchToolValue (http://amigadev.elowar.com/read/ADCD_2.1/Includes_and_Autodocs_3._guide/node0353.html) for find the value of a ToolType variable in icon.
However, In AROS this feature is rare (https://github.com/aros-development-team/AROS/search?q=FindToolType) and very rare (https://github.com/aros-development-team/AROS/search?q=MatchToolValue).
Funny thing: if you write "CLI_RUN", "CLIMAX" or "CLITORIS" in the tooltype, it also works in AROS.  ::)
Title: Re: Refreshed ABIv0 AROS
Post by: deadwood on February 20, 2021, 01:32:29 PM
Hi All,

Thanks for all the help in delivering this version. The final release is now available. I'm locking this thread and will open new development thread for next release.