Scalos - General

[deadwood]

if you open scalos prefs and then menu you can edit the menu.

Amigasystem used "Cleanup"... if you look at it, it uses a plugin

Scalos:Plugins/Menu/Sorted_Cleanup.plugin

if you look in the files it does not exist

Ok, now I understand. Thanks for the hint!

[OlafS3]

Is a problem that I had also reported in previous versions of Scalos, I made a small exhaustive video, used your basic version of AROS hosted Linux

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p-SWoWvuZFk8DxwDW5Q6NVFrY7Rjsc8n/view?usp=sharing

I'll added investigating this to the list.

That is what I was referring to.... the menu does not work because plugin does not exist

[OlafS3]

one I have found... you cannot leaveout a directory without attached icon

Tested on Win Hosted

[AMIGASYSTEM]

one I have found... you cannot leaveout a directory without attached icon

Tested on Win Hosted

If i understand the problem correctly, this is normal, you can't make a shortcut on an icon that doesn't exist, this also happens on all OS3, except the new OS 3.2

[OlafS3]

ah ok... but would be handy...

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Solution:

With Menu Scalos:
- Right Mouse Button on Icon
- Properties.
- Save

Or

With Menu Wanderer:
- Right Mouse Button on Icon
- Icon Information
- Save

Now the folder/file icon becomes real and you can safely make the connection

[AMIGASYSTEM]

if you open scalos prefs and then menu you can edit the menu.

Amigasystem used "Cleanup"... if you look at it, it uses a plugin

Scalos:Plugins/Menu/Sorted_Cleanup.plugin

if you look in the files it does not exist

Ok, now I understand. Thanks for the hint!

The sources of the PlugIn Cleanup can be found HERE in contrib-source

[AMIGASYSTEM]

Started Scalos on AROS One x86 directly by disabling Wander loading, this was used to test some particular applications that used a Wanderer Screen.

Successfully tested Dopus4 which after setting it to Scalos Screen, started without problems, also BoingIconBar opened without problems on a Scalos Screen, also created Scalos DualPNG Icons in AROS One style.

Tonight I will also test the operation of AmiStart and the various Themes settings for both BoingIconBar and AmiStart.

I also noticed on the PNG icons that some Wandere "Tool" icons on Scalos are seen as "Project" icons, I don't know if this is an AROS problem since I produce DualPNG icons on OS3 AfA Os.

It's not a problem though, once you change the Scalos side icon, Wander will also display them correctly the same way

[AMIGASYSTEM]

I also noticed on the PNG icons that some Wandere "Tool" icons on Scalos are seen as "Project" icons, I don't know if this is an AROS problem since I produce DualPNG icons on OS3 AfA Os.

It's not a problem though, once you change the Scalos side icon, Wander will also display them correctly the same way

I thought it was a problem only on my DualPNG icons, but no, the problem is also on native AROS Icons.

Basically, an Icon of an Executable (Tools), Scalos sees it as if it were a "data file" and assigns a "Project Icon", even though in the menu it is correctly set as Tools, see exhaustive screenshot.

In practice programs such as MPlayer on Scalos will work badly, practically if MPlayer is run from Icon, MPlayer will not show the GUI, it will work as if run from CLI without any parameters

[deadwood]

Basically, an Icon of an Executable (Tools), Scalos sees it as if it were a "data file" and assigns a "Project Icon", even though in the menu it is correctly set as Tools, see exhaustive screenshot.

In practice programs such as MPlayer on Scalos will work badly, practically if MPlayer is run from Icon, MPlayer will not show the GUI, it will work as if run from CLI without any parameters

Added to the bug list.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

On AROS 68k the problem seems not to be there, OS3 native executables, but also AROS native "ELF" executables are displayed correctly as "Tools"

[AMIGASYSTEM]

@deadwood

Also AmiStart works well with Scalos on-screen Scalos "if started without Wanderer", now to have a big improvement it lacks compatibility with DualPNG icons, I noticed on "AROS One" that if you go deep into the folders, at some point the window background doesn't load and the window freezes and can't be closed anymore.

This I don't know if it depends on the PNG Icons, with your standard version and the native AROS icons this doesn't seem to happen.

[deadwood]

This I don't know if it depends on the PNG Icons, with your standard version and the native AROS icons this doesn't seem to happen.

If you can "modify" the reference version in a way to trigger this problem, I'm interested in looking into it.

[AMIGASYSTEM]

With the reference version I have not encountered any problems, the problem is only present on AROS One on some folders full of DualPNG icons, when you do the swap between Size/Icon visualization see screenshot.

[miker1264]

With the reference version I have not encountered any problems, the problem is only present on AROS One on some folders full of DualPNG icons, when you do the swap between Size/Icon visualization see screenshot.

Maybe it depends on how the PNG Icons are being loaded & displayed. Scalos originally worked with Classic Amiga Icons.

The Scalos code for loading & displaying icons is interesting.

@deadwood I'm glad that you have decided to fix some of the issues with Scalos. It seems very promising especially for 64bit. But using it as an alternative to Magellan or Wanderer on x86 is also useful. A few years ago in the ABIv1 group we looked at Scalos briefly for use on 64bit. But there were so many small issues it was put on hold.

Great to see some progress.