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Reply #120 on: August 01, 2022, 05:50:48 AM
also icons are automatically attached by "def_NAME"

If I remember code correctly this is how it works. If you crated a file type AAABBB, you need to have def_AAABBB icon.



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Reply #121 on: August 01, 2022, 07:56:54 AM
On which architecture you tested this?

Done testing with reference ISO, AROS Hosted linux:

Scalos-Prefs/Menu Filetype->save "Reset To Default", no problem

Scalos-Prefs/Menu Filetype-> save "Reset To Default" and also destroys palette preferences (after reboot), Wallpapers, but I think it resets other things too !

See video:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M5OqNq7oJqGfpCU22BrTG7Jjd5dZ_5XS/view?usp=sharing

Also AROS One v1.8 behaves the same as the reference ISO AROS Hosted linux

On AROS One v1.8 I had forgotten to update some system files included in "scalos-builds-20220721".

The problem remains that ScalOS Prefs save "Filetype/Reset To Default" and also destroys palette preferences (after reboot), Wallpapers, but I think it resets other things too !



@OlafS3

As you can see from the screenshot, Scalos uses the Def_Icon by Wanderer, the ones that don't have a default icon is because it has to be created first on Scalos/Filetype and then the reference Def_Icon installed on Wanderer.
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Reply #122 on: August 01, 2022, 11:56:02 AM
@deadwood

AROS Hosted Windows, it seems not that it cannot rename a file !


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Reply #123 on: August 01, 2022, 12:59:17 PM
I can confirm that rename not works on hosted. On 68k it works



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Reply #124 on: August 01, 2022, 04:37:28 PM
Associating files with "Scalos_FileTypes" is very simple, practically it is very similar to Dopus4, first you create the Def_icons to assign to the file type (will be seen automatically ), then run "Scalos_FileTypes" you add the extension, fill in the descriptor (MATCH or PATTERN etc..) and save, see screenshot.

The DualPNG Def_icons shown are not beautiful, Scalos_FileTypes distorted them :(
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Reply #125 on: August 01, 2022, 05:19:56 PM
when I checked a original 68k Scalos installation and compared files with scalos on aros it seems some are missing in "tools": CreateDefaultIcon, CreateTrash, NewIconUtil, OpenLocation, PictIcon

do not know what they are for

I also do not find the official Scalos help file that seems to exist. For example you can use "%p" as path to icons when using shell commands. Stuff like that is in that file. Somebody knows where to find it?

I found documentation... strange not in current downloads

https://aminet.net/package/util/wb/Scalos

older version but better than nothing
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Reply #126 on: August 01, 2022, 05:33:22 PM
You anticipated me, in the attached link there are the tools CreateDefaultIcon, CreateTrash, NewIconUtil, OpenLocation, PictIcon, and also Scalos Guide and FileTypes Guide.

https://aminet.net/package/util/wb/Scalos

http://scalos.noname.fr/downloads.php#modules
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Reply #127 on: August 02, 2022, 02:12:36 AM
With the reference ISO on Scalos Prefs, I tried activating the fields in the "True Type Fonts" menu, adding the "ttengine.library". Having done this, the fields in the fields in the "True Type Fonts" menu activated, but as soon as the request for the Scalos Prefs choice opens, it loops.


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Reply #128 on: August 02, 2022, 05:41:41 AM
the "Scalos_FileTypes" application works fine with save "Reset To Default," but if a guru happens while configuring an association, it destroys the "deficon.prefs" configuration file that contained all previously associated FileTypes.

It basically destroyed all the video and audio associations I had created  :D


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Reply #129 on: August 02, 2022, 08:25:32 AM
With the reference ISO on Scalos Prefs, I tried activating the fields in the "True Type Fonts" menu, adding the "ttengine.library". Having done this, the fields in the fields in the "True Type Fonts" menu activated, but as soon as the request for the Scalos Prefs choice opens, it loops.

ttengine.library support was not tested at all and I won't be looking into it right now. What advantage does it give over regular fonts, which are also true type?



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Reply #130 on: August 02, 2022, 08:30:07 AM
The problem remains that ScalOS Prefs save "Filetype/Reset To Default" and also destroys palette preferences (after reboot), Wallpapers, but I think it resets other things too !

Reset to Default in Scalos_Prefs resets all settings so I think it is correct that your wallpaper is changed back to default and any changes you made are reversed.



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Reply #131 on: August 02, 2022, 10:23:44 AM
In my opinion it is not designed correctly, if I for example am on the True Type Font menu (see screenshot) and decide to reset fonts, Scalos cannot reset everything, or if it does it should give a warning.

This in my opinion will anger many users who may have taken a day to configure everything, as happened to me.

Regarding True Type Fonts the tick in the various menus is accepted and saved for me, the loop happens if I choose a fonts !

Actually after checking "True Type Font" in the various menus I don't notice any difference on Scalos.

Regarding the quality of the fonts, again in the screenshot you can see the difference between the font between Wanderer Vs Scalos


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Reply #132 on: August 02, 2022, 04:45:52 PM
Some anomalies found:

AROS Linux and Windows Hosted:

- In Prefs folder "Boot" and "Trident" executables are missing, "only" the icons are present


ISO reference, on Scalos "Input" and "Local" Applications do not work, if run the system becomes very slow.


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Reply #133 on: August 03, 2022, 12:14:59 AM
Some anomalies found:

AROS Linux and Windows Hosted:

- In Prefs folder "Boot" and "Trident" executables are missing, "only" the icons are present

Boot and Trident prefs have no function under hosted so they are not built. It would be better if icons were not copied, but AROS uses one icon configuration for all targets.

ISO reference, on Scalos "Input" and "Local" Applications do not work, if run the system becomes very slow.

Added to the list



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Reply #134 on: August 03, 2022, 08:29:27 AM
@deadwood

Created a small video showing the crash on "Scalos_Filetype Prefs"

Basically if you try to create a new association and leave the "empty field" without any values, "Scalos_Filetype Prefs" generates a Guru.

On the other hand, if you enter values in the fields, nothing seems to happen or if it does it rarely does.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OBBDFu7jtIhSr0c7c9ISIS-WT4YgYzs6/view?usp=sharing