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Reply #105 on: June 11, 2022, 08:33:30 AM

Scalos Prefs -> Popupmenu-> Sticky disablen

Hmm, are you talking about this option (see screenshot). Because menu still pops-out at pointer location. :/



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Reply #106 on: June 11, 2022, 08:58:51 AM
It is controlled with Icontrol Popup or pulldown



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Reply #107 on: June 11, 2022, 09:04:07 AM
You are right, thank you!



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Reply #108 on: June 11, 2022, 11:01:46 AM
@deadwood

Crashing Scalos Pref is a PlugIn "Menu.prefsplugin", probably for the same reason the Scalos menu is not working properly !!!

If you try rename or delete "Menu.prefsplugin", Scalos Pref works without crashing anymore :)


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Reply #109 on: June 11, 2022, 11:07:07 AM
@deadwood

Crashing Scalos Pref is a PlugIn "Menu.prefsplugin", probably for the same reason the Scalos menu is not working properly !!!

If you try rename or delete "Menu.prefsplugin", Scalos Pref works without crashing anymore :)

i deleted  both menu.prefsplugin and filetype.prefsplugin in prefs directory, I still have palette, pattern and popupmenu



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Reply #110 on: June 11, 2022, 11:20:34 AM
That's why Scalos Prefs was working for you, you could have said so :o

menu.prefsplugin is necessary and should not be deleted, it might be the cause of the failure to work 

filetype.prefsplugin does not give any problem


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Reply #111 on: June 11, 2022, 11:22:10 AM
@deadwood

Crashing Scalos Pref is a PlugIn "Menu.prefsplugin", probably for the same reason the Scalos menu is not working properly !!!

If you try rename or delete "Menu.prefsplugin", Scalos Pref works without crashing anymore :)

Yup, the crash is in Menu.prefsplugin. I'll eventually trace it and fix it.



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Reply #112 on: June 11, 2022, 11:42:20 AM
@deadwood

Crashing Scalos Pref is a PlugIn "Menu.prefsplugin", probably for the same reason the Scalos menu is not working properly !!!

If you try rename or delete "Menu.prefsplugin", Scalos Pref works without crashing anymore :)

Yup, the crash is in Menu.prefsplugin. I'll eventually trace it and fix it.

Thanks, you would also need to change the "Theme" path, you can't copy thousands of files and bloat all the themes.

I tried renaming in the settings from "Theme" to "Thems",wallpapers and preferences work excluding the Gadgets ones, probably because of the "Menu.prefsplugin" which doesn't allow changing the button image paths


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Reply #113 on: June 11, 2022, 11:47:44 AM
@deadwood

Crashing Scalos Pref is a PlugIn "Menu.prefsplugin", probably for the same reason the Scalos menu is not working properly !!!

If you try rename or delete "Menu.prefsplugin", Scalos Pref works without crashing anymore :)

Yup, the crash is in Menu.prefsplugin. I'll eventually trace it and fix it.

Thanks, you would also need to change the "Theme" path, you can't copy thousands of files and bloat all the themes.

I tried renaming in the settings from "Theme" to "Thems",wallpapers and preferences work excluding the Gadgets ones, probably because of the "Menu.prefsplugin" which doesn't allow changing the button image paths

Gadget image paths are hardcoded in the source code in form of THEME:xxx. This has to be changes in the source code itself in order to separate Scalos theme location from AROS theme location.



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Reply #114 on: June 11, 2022, 12:09:10 PM
Yes indeed, to make them work I copied "only" the folder "Windows" containing them to the "Theme" path

The result is good, it lacks good compatibility of PNG icons and speed in opening folders with icons



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Reply #115 on: June 21, 2022, 03:14:11 AM
I think I have found another X86 issue on Scalos

if you have a directory without icons (for example image files) and you select Show all then on X86 the files are shown with wrong icons (not the correct def icons) and with snapshot all the wrong icon files are used

the same works on 68k correctly

I use new aros 2019 branch, win hosted version

for checks I have uploaded my own test version

https://aros-platform.de/scalos_x86.zip

« Last Edit: June 21, 2022, 03:22:18 AM by OlafS3 »



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Reply #116 on: June 21, 2022, 04:07:03 AM
Did you associate the def_icon with each file type?


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Reply #117 on: June 21, 2022, 04:21:42 AM
I use the preferences from 68k that should work the same (and normally do)

Scalos filetypes recognition obviously works like "deficons"
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Reply #118 on: June 21, 2022, 04:42:48 AM
Also on OS3 file recognition is done through Def_Icons, thanks to the def_ icon you can associate icon and tool, without Def_icon you will not be able to associate anything, see OS 3.0/3.1, which do not have def_Icons "by default", and therefore can never these two OS recognize a file, except executables (associated hammer), text files and some other singular format.
 
Unfortunately Scalos is a system that does not work well on AROS, to associate a Def_Icon you must use "ScalosFileType," and this tool unfortunately does not work on AROS..


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Reply #119 on: June 21, 2022, 04:56:55 AM
the preference program not works on Aros unfortunately indeed (I think I reported that already, the same for menu preferences). But as I already wrote you can edit it on 3.1 and then copy the pref files to X86 (and also of course Aros 68k).  They work. I can clearly say that because I have a working Aros 68k distribution based on Scalos. On 68k all works as expected, the problem is X86.