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Reply #75 on: June 10, 2022, 08:11:56 AM
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that has nothing to do with the screenshot

Amigasystem claimed the option "overlapping icons..." when clicked is ignored on X86 and I just tested it and that is not true.

Without it enabled it can happen that labels of icons are hidden for example, with it enabled this not happens. That not solves problems that icons are not refreshed in some cases.



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Reply #76 on: June 10, 2022, 08:47:46 AM
Yes, I understand what you describe, thus my question. On AMIGASYSTEM screenshot the "overlapping" option is checked and all the icons and labels are drawn correctly, which would suggest that the option works, while AMIGASYSTEM is saying it is now. My question is whether I'm missing something on this screen shot.



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Reply #77 on: June 10, 2022, 11:04:38 AM
@OlafS3

You have to do the tests with icons that have not already been stored by Wanderer, probably my English is incomprehensible.

Watch this video carefully, and then do the same thing, showing a verification video of your own, if it works for you then there is something in my installation of Scalos that is not working

Basically you have to take some icon from the various drawers, and copy them to RAM or copy new drawer, done this verdai that Scalos will not be able to of automatically arranging them correctly.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pb05li3l-MUiAi80cX237Yf1__Unhp_T/view


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Reply #78 on: June 10, 2022, 11:24:07 PM
Ok, the icons still overlap each other on your video. I assume you have the option for overlap selected? (you didn't show this on video). Maybe the option works only after a reboot?



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Reply #79 on: June 11, 2022, 02:30:44 AM
The option is active, but when the Menu work (if Menu13.prefs is present), the option cannot be shown Scalos Prefs crashes, to run Scalos Prefs you have to delete "Menu13.prefs", but then the Scalos Menu does not work.


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Reply #80 on: June 11, 2022, 02:34:18 AM
Ok, the icons still overlap each other on your video. I assume you have the option for overlap selected? (you didn't show this on video). Maybe the option works only after a reboot?

I have tested it again... copyied kens icons in ram: without option enabled and then some labels were hidden, the same with option enabled and this was not the case. To me it looks like it is working, also on X86. So I assume something is wrong with installation of Amigasystem in my view. I will reupload my own test environment.



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Reply #81 on: June 11, 2022, 02:37:00 AM
The option is active, but when the Menu work (if Menu13.prefs is present), the option cannot be shown Scalos Prefs crashes, to run Scalos Prefs you have to delete "Menu13.prefs", but then the Scalos Menu does not work.

I have reuploaded my own Win Hosted X86 installation

https://aros-platform.de/Scalos_x86.zip

your environment is obviously not working

and delete there the file env:zune/usethemeprefs
« Last Edit: June 11, 2022, 02:45:41 AM by OlafS3 »



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Reply #82 on: June 11, 2022, 02:58:00 AM
just copy kens icons to ram by copying them from arch/kens and then open ram:

it works



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Reply #83 on: June 11, 2022, 05:26:41 AM
I just found another trick... if you put opaque in wbstartup the icons are correctly shown, even if you change windows or scroll in it f.e.
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Reply #84 on: June 11, 2022, 05:37:20 AM

your environment is obviously not working


I used your System, started your Scalos_X86 in real AROS system with WMware:

- Icon Menu does not automatically restore Icons (see video).
- Icons get cut off, not because of overlay, because Scalos does not support DualPNG and Icons (see video)
- You have outdated Zune libraries (see video)
- Scalos Prefs works because it is not an updated AROS version

Can you make your own video and do the same things cho I did ?


Also you copied Scalos preferences, in the Root and in all themes, this means you have on a Distro 3.718 Files and 757 folder  for a simple setting !!!


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1huJmVGCmr7q9W2dLdEggiClUIPBpvS0D/view?usp=sharing
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Reply #85 on: June 11, 2022, 05:57:25 AM
please do what I already recommended: "and delete there the file env:zune/usethemeprefs"

then there is no requester anymore and it looks like 3.1

additionally opaque in wbstartup (as I already wrote)

there still seems to be a problem with refresh of os4 icons, kens icons f.e. work and refresh perfectly



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Reply #86 on: June 11, 2022, 06:03:38 AM
I am under the impression that you don't see my videos, that is your 1:1 system I didn't change anything, the icons as said Scalos doesn't support AROS, OS4 and OS4 icons, you need the developers to update the "iconobject.library"


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Reply #87 on: June 11, 2022, 06:09:12 AM
@Deadwood
II have reuploaded Scalos_X86.zip as current version with the changes for testing

I have one error... I open main directory and then pref directory. There I start "Scalos Prefs" and close it. Then I close pref directory window and suddenly get a error:

http://aros-platform.de/Error2.png



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Reply #88 on: June 11, 2022, 06:10:27 AM
I am under the impression that you don't see my videos, that is your 1:1 system I didn't change anything, the icons as said Scalos doesn't support AROS, OS4 and OS4 icons, you need the developers to update the "iconobject.library"

The icons from aros work perfectly, only OS4 icons not (as I already wrote...)

@Amigasystem

either do what I already recommended:
"please do what I already recommended: "and delete there the file env:zune/usethemeprefs"

then there is no requester anymore and it looks like 3.1

additionally opaque in wbstartup (as I already wrote)

there still seems to be a problem with refresh of os4 icons, kens icons f.e. work and refresh perfectly"

or redownload the archive (I have uploaded a slightly changed version)

The icons from aros and kens icons work perfect, only icons from OS4 not (the tcp icon you showed is exactly from there). I do not know if you use those in your distribution. I use kens icons mainly so this is not a problem to me.
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Reply #89 on: June 11, 2022, 07:04:44 AM
I have just reuploaded Scalos_X86.zip

small change: "Context menu on dragbar only" in "window! (Scalos prefs) activated

that makes it possible that the shiny aros menu is shown when clicking in a window

http://aros-platform.de/ConextMenu.png