AROS World Exec
General => Introduce Yourself => Topic started by: Studenteer on April 18, 2023, 01:28:18 AM
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Hello AROS-/Amgia-Community,
I have looked for a while for new OS I can using and found AROS. I tried it as VM and want to stay a longer while on finding out OS's functions and possiblities/usecases. I've been interested in OS developing some time ago and wanted to start gaining knowlegde over it now. So I decided to offically joining community in hope, I can increase usability of AROS in day-to-day-scenarios.
Hoping, I'll have a good time here with you.
Greetings,
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Out of topic: Does somebody have a tip to learn who AROS works (except Try-and-Error)?
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Hello Studenter and welcome to this community
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Greetings
Are you familiar with AmigaOS from the classic line of Commodore Amiga line of computers from CBM
You should check out the developement threads here
Welcome aboard
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Out of topic: Does somebody have a tip to learn who AROS works (except Try-and-Error)?
Do you mean "how"? I recommend joining the slack channel:
http://www.aros.org/contact.php#slack
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welcome to aros comunity I collaborate with some programmers and help them with donations The last effort was the porting of World Construction Set which is currently in beta but is functional
Kind regards
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Thanks for the welcomings.
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Are you familiar with AmigaOS from the classic line of Commodore Amiga line of computers from CBM
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Well, I never had a Commodore. I informed myself over Commodore to get an overview, but buying one is atm not in range of possiblities. So I'm bounded on my VM and AROS One.
Out of topic: Does somebody have a tip to learn who AROS works (except Try-and-Error)?
Do you mean "how"? I recommend joining the slack channel:
http://www.aros.org/contact.php#slack
Ouh, typo. Yes, "how" was mean. I'll checking it out soon.
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So I'm bounded on my VM and AROS One.
Thank you for testing my Distribution, eventually you can also install AROS One native on PC, you can find PC compatible Hardware here:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_Complete_System_HCL
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During approx. 1 month I am testing different AROS-Distros and stock-AROS on different computers and laptops from different producers but never got running or not rejecting device. The listed devices above are mainly not in range. Are there any hints or tricks to get closer suggestions of runability on a laptop or computer, which is not listed on cataloge?
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During approx. 1 month I am testing different AROS-Distros and stock-AROS on different computers and laptops from different producers but never got running or not rejecting device. The listed devices above are mainly not in range. Are there any hints or tricks to get closer suggestions of runability on a laptop or computer, which is not listed on cataloge?
Asus M2N68-AM SE2 is a 100% compatible motherboard (You can buy cheaply on Aliexpress).
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During approx. 1 month I am testing different AROS-Distros and stock-AROS on different computers and laptops from different producers but never got running or not rejecting device. The listed devices above are mainly not in range. Are there any hints or tricks to get closer suggestions of runability on a laptop or computer, which is not listed on cataloge?
That depends on entirely what your issues are. There are workarounds for many issues but without knowing the issue at hand it's hard to help. If you're having boot issues and have a null modem cable and a spare pc a boot log is always useful edit your grub line to include debug=serial I would try with an without sysdebug=all in the line as I have personally issues booting on machines with sysdebug=all enabled(corrupts the cpu initialization). Now as far as hardware goes on a newer machine with an NVME drive you may need to add NVME=disable as the NVME driver could potentially cause lockups. If you have USB3 only you have another issue all together as machines with USB3 only chipsets won't enable to legacy ports without XHCI drivers. You could buy a USB2 card I found a 4 port one on Amazon for $30 the biggest issue is it's got flakey initialization so works best if you use an external hub with it. a 16C/32T chip there's another issue disable SMT and it'll boot.
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During approx. 1 month I am testing different AROS-Distros and stock-AROS on different computers and laptops from different producers but never got running or not rejecting device. The listed devices above are mainly not in range. Are there any hints or tricks to get closer suggestions of runability on a laptop or computer, which is not listed on cataloge?
That depends on entirely what your issues are. There are workarounds for many issues but without knowing the issue at hand it's hard to help. If you're having boot issues and have a null modem cable and a spare pc a boot log is always useful edit your grub line to include debug=serial I would try with an without sysdebug=all in the line as I have personally issues booting on machines with sysdebug=all enabled(corrupts the cpu initialization). Now as far as hardware goes on a newer machine with an NVME drive you may need to add NVME=disable as the NVME driver could potentially cause lockups. If you have USB3 only you have another issue all together as machines with USB3 only chipsets won't enable to legacy ports without XHCI drivers. You could buy a USB2 card I found a 4 port one on Amazon for $30 the biggest issue is it's got flakey initialization so works best if you use an external hub with it. a 16C/32T chip there's another issue disable SMT and it'll boot.
I have one more recent Asus prime x370-pro, I've set Nvme=disable on grub and put my pen in my USB 2.0 ports still it stops in the second boot screen where it asks for media to boot from.
menuentry "AROS (native graphics)" {
multiboot /boot/pc/bootstrap.gz ATA=32bit NVME=disable
module /boot/pc/kernel.gz
module /boot/pc/aros-bsp.pkg.gz
module /boot/aros-base.pkg.gz
module /boot/aros-fs.pkg.gz
module /boot/poseidon.pkg.gz
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Yes many users are used to aros for many years and know that it takes computers not too recent at least from the bios you must have the ability to use ATA compatibility, cmq there is no need to spend so much money fora workstation compatible with Windows 10
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Yes many users are used to aros for many years and know that it takes computers not too recent at least from the bios you must have the ability to use ATA compatibility, cmq there is no need to spend so much money fora workstation compatible with Windows 10
I just wanted it to kept using the usb drive.
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In this case if you have problems and want to use AROS the alternative and on virtual machine :-\
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During approx. 1 month I am testing different AROS-Distros and stock-AROS on different computers and laptops from different producers but never got running or not rejecting device. The listed devices above are mainly not in range. Are there any hints or tricks to get closer suggestions of runability on a laptop or computer, which is not listed on cataloge?
That depends on entirely what your issues are. There are workarounds for many issues but without knowing the issue at hand it's hard to help. If you're having boot issues and have a null modem cable and a spare pc a boot log is always useful edit your grub line to include debug=serial I would try with an without sysdebug=all in the line as I have personally issues booting on machines with sysdebug=all enabled(corrupts the cpu initialization). Now as far as hardware goes on a newer machine with an NVME drive you may need to add NVME=disable as the NVME driver could potentially cause lockups. If you have USB3 only you have another issue all together as machines with USB3 only chipsets won't enable to legacy ports without XHCI drivers. You could buy a USB2 card I found a 4 port one on Amazon for $30 the biggest issue is it's got flakey initialization so works best if you use an external hub with it. a 16C/32T chip there's another issue disable SMT and it'll boot.
I have one more recent Asus prime x370-pro, I've set Nvme=disable on grub and put my pen in my USB 2.0 ports still it stops in the second boot screen where it asks for media to boot from.
menuentry "AROS (native graphics)" {
multiboot /boot/pc/bootstrap.gz ATA=32bit NVME=disable
module /boot/pc/kernel.gz
module /boot/pc/aros-bsp.pkg.gz
module /boot/aros-base.pkg.gz
module /boot/aros-fs.pkg.gz
module /boot/poseidon.pkg.gz
Are your keyboard and mouse being initialized? If not you have xhci with legacy emulated usb2 ports which won’t work.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/374081036222?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=yt689BRwQz2&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=pcjJtIg1Ra-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
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Yes many users are used to aros for many years and know that it takes computers not too recent at least from the bios you must have the ability to use ATA compatibility, cmq there is no need to spend so much money fora workstation compatible with Windows 10
Absolutely not true as I have a 16 core 32 thread machine with an x570 chipset 128 gigs of ram that I worked very hard with nick sending logs testing etc to work out bugs on modern machines. Is everything committed no however I have found work around a for pretty much everything.
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I tested a modern pc a laptop lately and aros did not work and I always refer to abiv0, I did not get to try it with abiv11
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I tested a modern pc a laptop lately and aros did not work and I always refer to abiv0, I did not get to try it with abiv11
Both of which are behind the main aros git. I only test either of those as a favor because many of the issues you’re encountering have already been discovered. This has been one of my main gripes for years as if more people tested the nightly iso and reported bugs to the aros hit deadwood’s back port would have more fixes by now because the issues would have been discovered sooner. In the last few months I’ve gone through 50 cds testing various builds nightly, deadwood’s, the xhci stuff for nick, nvme stuff.
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I understand thanks pe your work :'(
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I understand thanks pe your work :'(
Don’t thank me I just test and send logs. 90% of the fixes that are came from my logs were by kalamatee
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eh I know that nik is doing a great job ;)
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eh I know that nik is doing a great job ;)
All of that being said I've installed deadwoods abiv0 and abiv11 on my machine and know many work arounds. I do however only check the amiga and AROS sites like once a month. I fully intend to buy a new machine now that I've figured out the work arounds on this machine I really prefer my AROS machines be within the last 2 years as it helps find bugs that were hidden on less modern machines.
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I understand we expect new news from Deadwood which is also Nik's work
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OK Sorry my handler (did you follow the Brittney Spears drama to know what a handler is) closed my Paypal. I still have a Prepaid Credit Card, maybe I can still donate to kalamatee over aros.org?
Shit I can`t donate to kalamatee anymore, my f * handler closed my Paypal Account!