Cannot open OWB on its own screen?

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Reply #15 on: August 16, 2022, 09:36:20 AM
AROS uses MUI 3.8 and thus never had this feature.
But you still should be able to select a PSI created screen from application's MUI prefs, and move the application onto it. The "moving" part just doesn't seem to work on AROS while it works perfectly well on MUI 3.8 on a real AmigaOS setup.

Update.... I got a program to its own screen, but I had to restart it after configuring, it didn't seem to work "live".

Update 2... but that was in the situation where I had opened the screen manually... now it doesn't seem to auto-open even when trying to restart... oh well.. I better shut up until I have more time to investigate :)
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Reply #16 on: August 16, 2022, 09:41:54 AM
@jPV:
Thank you for having verified that.


In that case it can be considered a bug in AROS.


I have no idea what might be the reason this feature does not work the way as you guys described.


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Reply #17 on: August 16, 2022, 09:46:37 AM
MUI 3.8 is the one I was using in that video for Amiga 68k, so it does have that feature.

However, if it is not implimented in AROS then that is OK, but the fact that ZUNE understands it and has PSI application to do it is odd.

I will check back through my videos because I rarely used MorphOS and I am sure this worked but not really touched AROS for 5 years.

Thanks for commenting.

Steve



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Reply #18 on: August 16, 2022, 09:57:45 AM
Just for the record (I am mixing things up here as well so I better make it more clear here):
Make sure you are referring to Zune (that is based on MUI 3.8 ) and not the real MUI 3.8 that was distributed by its original author.


fwiw: it never worked for me as intended with AROS/Zune and thus used psi prefs + script as a workaround. I haven't checked in quite a while if this feature started working at one point or another.


I am also assuming you (both) are referring to AROS ABIv0 (I did with my replies), in case not then please correct (it is quite a mess atm with regards to ABI's) as I can check things on/for other ABI's as well in case required (and software to test with is available)


I haven't had the time to look at your video yet clusteruk (but will).


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Reply #19 on: August 16, 2022, 10:00:54 AM
@ntromans

After a little bit of fiddling this worked.

Thanks for the help, hopefully it may not be needed in the future :-)

Steve

You can do this by creating a new screen in PSI (I've called it OWBScreen) and then use the following IconX scrip:

stack 8000000
sys:prefs/PSI OWBScreen OPEN >NIL:
cd sys:utilities/owb
owb
SYS:prefs/PSI OWBScreen CLOSE >NIL:

The only problem with this is PSI still does not support setting the font, you so have to live with a slightly ugly one (Topaz I'm guessing) for window title and menus.

Cheers,
Nigel.



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Reply #20 on: August 16, 2022, 12:41:05 PM
I think i understand what you meant to say in that you can open Wanderer on any given screen resolution but that:
- Stil means all windows of all applications that you start are opened on the same screen (cluttering)

Yes true, if I understood correctly, I solve in this way, if for example I want to open OWB on a small window, va I want other applications to use the whole window, after storing the window of OWB, i replace the "global.prefs" in the Env-Archive (OWB will later use its Zune config.), done this only OWB will open with al small window, this operation I perform it on all those applications where I want to use a particular resolution, an example on all AmiTube !


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Reply #21 on: August 16, 2022, 06:35:25 PM
Yes true, if I understood correctly, I solve in this way, if for example I want to open OWB on a small window, va I want other applications to use the whole window, after storing the window of OWB, i replace the "global.prefs" in the Env-Archive (OWB will later use its Zune config.), done this only OWB will open with al small window, this operation I perform it on all those applications where I want to use a particular resolution, an example on all AmiTube !
I'm trying to pick my brain on what you wrote and believe I have to conclude that there still is some language barrier confusion going on here  :)

If you do open every application on the same screen, no matter the resolution (= width/height dimensions) of that screen then it does not really matter how you organise your open windows. Even stronger, it becomes tiresome to set the window positions and sizes for every different used screen resolution.

That is why having multiple screens is such a bless, as it allows you (for example) for applications that open up a lot of windows or depend on displaying a lot of information to the user to have such application run on its own independent screen (with accompanied resolution/dimensions).

So, for example I can have OWB run on its own screen at a resolution of 1920x1080, while at the same time being able to run my development editor on its own screen with a resolution of 1024x768 and have the workbench run on a screen with a resolution of 800x600.

That way you can have a dedicated resolution for certain programs/applications and be able to switch between them with amiga-M/N.



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Reply #22 on: August 17, 2022, 12:22:42 AM
Now I understand well what you wrote, in this case I was not talking about "Screen" but Zune custom settings, thanks for the information, and sorry for the misunderstanding