AROS ABIv0 20190416 Development

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Reply #105 on: June 11, 2022, 11:03:48 AM
Will Deadwood the new version of Gallium will be present on the next updates?

As far as I know update to Mesa that happened in 2019 did not restore IntelGMA and Nouveau 3D acceleration. If that is that case, this update will not be part of ABIv0 ISOs.

Is there a uptodate win hosted version? Then I would test scalos in it



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Reply #106 on: June 11, 2022, 11:20:09 AM
I'll build it and share it here.



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Reply #108 on: June 11, 2022, 11:51:52 AM
thanks :)



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Reply #110 on: June 11, 2022, 12:34:21 PM
Ok, I'll see if I can fix this problem. :/



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Reply #111 on: June 12, 2022, 05:58:50 AM
@OlafS3

For the time being you should be able to use 20190416-1 together with the patch below:

https://axrt.org/development/20190416-1-mingw32-patch.zip



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Reply #112 on: June 12, 2022, 12:38:14 PM
thanks. Works



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Reply #113 on: June 12, 2022, 01:14:03 PM
deadwood, Windows hosted well it works perfectly and it is also very fast. question, from Wanderer is it possible to run Windows applications, how is it done?

Eventually we can open a Thread decicated to AROS Hosted Windows, I would have other requests to make
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Reply #114 on: June 12, 2022, 01:54:28 PM
.... from Wanderer is it possible to run Windows applications, how is it done?
Yes it is possible.

If i remember correctly then it was Icaros Desktop that has something named a "rabbit hole" which allows you to execute commands on the host OS.

It is not bound to a Windows host as something similar can also be done on a Linux host. I believe one of Pascal Papara's distro's running on a Linux host (sorry the name of the distribution eludes me atm) also supports something similar.

It is out of scope of this thread to go into detail on how it is done more so because details depends on how you want to have it integrated.

Do note however it is not all sunshine and fairy tales as AROS has no support for seamless  integration with the Host.

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Eventually we can open a Thread decicated to AROS Hosted Windows, I would have other requests to make
Indeed better not pollute threads with offtopic discussions (that has been done here much too many times already)


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Reply #115 on: June 12, 2022, 02:31:57 PM

If i remember correctly then it was Icaros Desktop that has something named a "rabbit hole" which allows you to execute commands on the host OS.


I know "rabbit hole" uses one app called "Winlaunch" which through a script allows all applications to be launched from the Workbench.

On my AfA One I have been using it for many years "Winlaunch", see screnshot and video, "Winlaunch" works only from WinUAE and to work it requires the library "winuae_dll" in WinUAE folder

Now I don't know if "Winlaunch" also exists for AROS x86

https://youtu.be/oJbnSKXW8tA?list=UUj58j6dAHBePzbdcKPkp4uA
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Reply #116 on: June 12, 2022, 03:11:21 PM
Icaros IS AROS x86  ;)

See also this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n49lQWjUFYw

Paolone named it Hostbridge.

Watch the video till just over half way to see it in action (or watch the whole video  :P).

The Icaros Desktop installation process automatically imports your Windows startmenu.

If that is not what you are looking for then please open up another thread and try to explain in more detail what it is you are looking for.
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Reply #117 on: June 12, 2022, 04:27:00 PM
"rabbit hole" is a name created by Amikit, see HERE, procedure the same as the one I used on AfA One.

Yes I on AROS x86 I wanted to do the same thing I do on AfA One.

Winlaunch package includes the sources, someone could compile them !

http://aminet.net/package/util/misc/winlaunch


I am not familiar with the "Hostbridge" procedure, from the videos it is not clear which tool is used

https://youtu.be/H9eV1YCAkaU
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Reply #118 on: June 13, 2022, 08:20:26 AM

I am not familiar with the "Hostbridge" procedure, from the videos it is not clear which tool is used

https://youtu.be/H9eV1YCAkaU


The original efforts regarding launch of host applications came from Pascal Papara, who developed a tool for his AEROS distribution. I asked him if I could use it as well, but he told me I should have tailored a Linux distribution around it to maked it work properly. This brought me to find a different solution to reach the same goal, since having hostbridge work on as-many-as-possible distros was mandatory, and extending it to Windows would have been a nice addon.


There is no winlaunch in hostbridge. Just one of my PoorX tools (one for Linux, one for Windows) delivering a message in a bottle to the host operating system, and a little daemon waiting for that message to come, ready to do what the message states. By the way, trying to turn this daemon from its original scripting form to a executable, popped up dozens of security warnings in latest Windows releases, since I could not afford a digital 'signature' for my software, which would have raised less concerns. So I stepped back to the script.


By the way, hostbridge is not just a launcher for host applications. It's step #1 to use Icaros Desktop as a desktop replacement for your host operating system.



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Reply #119 on: June 13, 2022, 08:34:39 AM
Thanks Paolo, mine was just a curiosity, actually on Windows to use Windows Application just move with Mouse from Wander to Desktop, or use the famous ALT-TAB to move to Open Applications on Windows.