Haiku OS vs. AROS vs. React OS

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on: February 19, 2022, 12:06:30 PM
AROS Scene could learn from Haiku OS.. Haiku OS seems to be the most advanced alt. OS ATM.

What can we learn from HAIKU OS?

React OS is also very well organized!

Seems to me that Anarchy kills itself!

Anarchist Research Operating System!

Antichrist Research Operating System!
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Reply #1 on: February 22, 2022, 07:26:39 AM
After having tried to install LLVM on a single-threaded architecture called WASI for the past month, trying to support a single-threaded multitasker in this day and age is nearly impossible.

AROS Scene could learn from Haiku OS.. Haiku OS seems to be the most advanced alt. OS ATM.

What can we learn from HAIKU OS?

React OS is also very well organized!

Seems to me that Anarchy kills itself!

Anarchist Research Operating System!

Antichrist Research Operating System!
No, the last one is Windows.

Haiku gets its drivers from BSD mostly and there is a lot of stuff that comes with the multithreaded kernel.  Unfortunately GCC seems to have fallen into bitrot on 32-bit architectures.  On the Haiku forums a topic to drop 32 bit x86 appeared just this morning.  Things are not all roses with Haiku either because 32-bit Haiku is binary compatible with BeOS and 64-bit not.

How to apply this to AROS?  68k AROS has been facing bitrot from compiler makers. ABI0 is also 32-bit only on x86 using GCC.  Unless some way to use WebAssembly to implement drivers emerges, AROS and Haiku are both screwed.



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Reply #2 on: October 10, 2022, 09:21:15 AM
Yes Haiku is really impressive for the small team it has.
Libreoffice and Krita and many other programs.
The hope is Aros can get more developers.




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Reply #3 on: October 10, 2022, 10:35:58 AM
Haiku although some consider it a system close to Amiga, it is not at all, looking at the structure of the OS, in my opinion it is closer to one of the many Linux Distributions, and for this reason it is ahead of AROS with Drivers and Software Porting.

At this point better a Linux Distribution than Haiku, although I for daily use prefer Windows and would never change it to Linux, of course it is my choice, and it is not meant to be a polemic.


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Reply #4 on: October 11, 2022, 02:04:43 AM
Alternative operating systems are usually trying to reach the functional status of mainstream operating systems.
In that light, there really isn't a fight. But it might be enough to draw attention and money.

Another problem is that people need reasons to put their Youtube away, and actually use their computer. This instead of Youtube using the users computer to trap the users attention.

Aros and Kolibri are bootable on plenty of machines. React can be problematic there. They have to try and retain compatibility. I don't know what to think about Haiku. I'm glad they are trying. But for me, the system always feels like is running slow.

From a consumer point of view, you just need communities of cool people doing cool things with their computer (your alt OS). Then the bar to entry needs to be low enough (Price/Availability/Complexity etc).

It might seem pretty hard to achieve that coolness factor. But look how well providing tons of small, crappy, and simple games/apps worked for smart phones. The advantage is being seen in public, looking cool to someone who is a have not. That's the best advertising.

The killer thing is providing the above, but not losing the users that are smart (without their device being smart for them). As soon as you lose those people, they go out looking for an OS that will let them be smart again. Those bastards. They are almost as bad as the users who what your alt OS to be totally different, and yet at the same time just like the others.

I'm 99.9~% fatalist. I couldn't tell you where the rest comes from?


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Reply #5 on: October 12, 2022, 01:09:49 PM
Haiku lacks drivers and networking and security is not that good (they have no firewall).
They could gain much more attraction if they could somehow be compatible with Linux drivers.

BE had a lot of Amiga devs, even some parts look like Amiga (window borders and icons are inspired by NewIcons).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsVydyC8ZGQ

And Be API is really really interesting stuff.

https://github.com/damir-sijakovic/c_docs/blob/master/BEBOOK.pdf

Another interesting project from ex-Amiga user is DragonflyBSD.

https://www.dragonflybsd.org/

Put Scalos on that and lets have fun :)



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Reply #6 on: October 14, 2022, 11:50:36 AM
Please quit posting garbage Qbit.
What is the point of changing your nick so often if you just type the same gibberish over and over again?
Its very obvious who you are just by the nonsense you write.
Have you ever even used Haiku?
It's far from being up to the level of AROS. And it's also yet another *nix derivative which is why it can be easier to port software to than a non-nix derived OS. The BeOS roots are secondary and the *nix side has taken priority, deriving it of most of what could make it interesting.
It's currently a snore fest.
But why bother learning about things before you spew your typical garbage right?



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Reply #7 on: October 15, 2022, 11:05:06 AM
@korban
Ignorance is bliss!



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Reply #8 on: October 15, 2022, 02:38:25 PM
If you find it blissful that's fine, but please stop torturing others publicly with it.