AxRuntime

[OlafS3]

[Amiwell]

I use Aros every day Odyssey still allows me, I hope you also take into account that many users would like to use the native system

[OlafS3]

I use Aros every day Odyssey still allows me, I hope you also take into account that many users would like to use the native system

so you do not want to use a new browser and prefer the old one? I do no longer understand the world 

[Amiwell]

I would like to like at least I hope, use an updated browser for native aros

[Amiwell]

I didn't understand it seems strange that a desire to use Aros every day

[OlafS3]

I didn't understand it seems strange that a desire to use Aros every day

your preferred system will not vanish by that. But you have a new option with modern software and lots of drivers and additionally aros software. Because all software is linux you can use the linux components and linux software and aros software compiled for linux. To me that sounds like Aros 68k where you can mix amiga and aros components and software and do something new. Potentially this new platform could not only solve the typical problems of a niche system (no modern software, no drivers, no modern development software) it would open a new universe to aros. For me that sounds similar interesting than Aros 68k was when I started with it. So I really do not understand why you not want it. As I wrote... you can stay on aros pure of course, it is there and stays there.

All would be Linux.. You start a configured wanderer as desktop, there you have aros and linux software in it (aros software is linux software too), then you start firefox (linux) and Wookiechat (linux now too but a port from aros/amiga). That is my vision how it can be.

[Amiwell]

I don't care if Aros is a niche system also because it is not difficult to configure a computer with a few euros without problems and all that has been done so far excites me and I don't think I'm the only one to appreciate this, a solution with Linux I don't like it all here, it would no longer be the workbench for x86, perhaps and better if anything, if you feel the opinion of all users attending the forum

[OlafS3]

I don't care if Aros is a niche system also because it is not difficult to configure a computer with a few euros without problems and all that has been done so far excites me and I don't think I'm the only one to appreciate this, a solution with Linux I don't like it all here, it would no longer be the workbench for x86, perhaps and better if anything, if you feel the opinion of all users attending the forum

you are free to have your opinion and do not need to use or support it

but please do not continue this discussion here

[Amiwell]

you are not in the condition of deciding what I have to write my friend

[deadwood]

I would like us to look at a bigger picture. Everyone here has their own preferences.

Some are interested in native AROS as their main system as much as possible and here is where I develop ABIv0 i386. There is already a library of application for it and we have actively maintained distributions.

Some are interested in the classic Amigas and here is where I provide AROS 68k builds. Again, we have old and new 68k software and distributions.

There are some people showing interest in 64-bit space and here is where I develop ABIv11 x86_64 AROS. We probably have around 5 third party applications by now, but we also have a distribution here!

Lastly, there are people who use Linux on daily basis - the poll I did two years ago showed that 50% of people who replied had some form on contact with Linux on regular basis. Here is where AxRuntime comes into play to bring Amiga way of doing things to Linux.

The key thing to understand about those 4 projects however is that they share 99.99% of code base.

A stream of improvements coming from one of the directions will eventually benefit other variants. My last week's work on AxRuntime resulted in several commits that were done to shared code base and will be available in 68k and 64-bit first and ABIv0 after some time.

Please keep that in mind and support each other.

[OlafS3]

@deadwood

At the time I started with Aros 68k I was very lonely but the attraction was to combine aros 68k with amiga components and see where it gets. The same potential I see about this.

I will certainly try to do a distribution based on it. Who not likes it should not use it. Simply as that.

And yes we should work together and motivate each other and not say what we do not like.

[Amiwell]

ok deadwood

[AMIGASYSTEM]

I believe that fragmentations lead to a slowdown in development, Linux for years has never exceeded 2% of users in the world, precisely because of its fractionations and the many distributions that have slowed progress.

Windows is the most used system in the world just because it has always focused on one system.

I don't care about Linux and host systems, my passion is Amiga and native AROS, if AROS were to run on Linux for me it would no longer be AROS, if I need particular applications I have Windows that guarantees quality, security and speed in doing things.

I abandoned OS4 for the same reason, because of the Linux software introduced in the system.

[cdimauro]

Ax it NOT about fragmentation. As deadwood clearly stated: "4 projects [...] share 99.99% of code base."


I'm also not interested at all on Linux (I use Windows), but the improvements of such "cross-collaboration" could be shared by all such AROS "flavors" (let's call them like that). And in future Ax might also be ported to Windows doing the same thing that was made for/on Linux.


So, I'm quite in favor of this project (and, in general, of all AROS-related/made/derived projects).

[OlafS3]

In my distribution certainly more than 90% are amiga components, even the desktop is different. The base is still aros. So what is it now?

The same could potentially be with Linux.You have aros desktop, you have lots of technologies in it that are from aros but the base is linux and there is software in it from linux. What is it now?

If it feels & looks like amiga people will be happy. I am against any ideologic discussions here. Who not like it will not use it. Simply as that