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Reply #630 on: July 20, 2023, 04:50:11 AM
Where can I download VNC from? I can't find it on AROS-Archives.


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Reply #631 on: July 20, 2023, 05:30:17 AM
I enclose in VNC that I have on AROS One.

In the archive there is VNC-Client, VNC-Server and the sources of both binaries

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ksv4Z5C30LaiCPv26DKSaQxVfKTwJmLN/view?usp=sharing


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Reply #632 on: July 20, 2023, 05:54:32 AM
Thanks. ArosVNC asks for jfif.library which is not part of AROS build. Can you share that library with me as well?


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Reply #633 on: July 20, 2023, 06:41:07 AM
hi deadwood the library


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Reply #634 on: July 21, 2023, 01:11:57 PM
Quote from: AMIGASYSTEM on April 07, 2023, 01:59:42 AM
Again you are only speaking from theory, we are talking about WinUAE not a real Amiga, with the 030 no JIT on WinUAE you don't do anything with it if you have to run AROS or run Porting or Amiga RTG systems.

---- Italiano -----

Anche qui parli solo per teoria, stiamo parlando di WinUAE non di una Amiga reale, con lo 030 no JIT non ci fai nulla su WinUAE se devi eseguire AROS o eseguire Porting o sistemi Amiga RTG.

This comes from WinUAE's author, Toni Wilen:
Quote from: Toni Wilen;1099318
Then it only fixes emulation problem or uses some different parts of emulator due to CPU architecture differences.

Emulators designed to be as fast as possible NEVER get faster by selecting "better" CPU! (Usually it is the opposite due to emulated CPU being more complex).

(Oddly enough long time ago I was told that there is no speed difference. Use of CSPPC CPU model in BPPC was my very first suggestion..)
https://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=1099318&postcount=5


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Reply #635 on: July 21, 2023, 05:34:10 PM
Correct what Toni Wilen says, but he is referring to the emulation of an AMiGA, systems that do not need so much power, AROS 68k is not a suitable system for AMiGA in fact on a real Amiga AROS 68k is very slow and unusable.


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Reply #636 on: July 21, 2023, 06:02:38 PM
Quote from: AMIGASYSTEM on July 21, 2023, 05:34:10 PM
Correct what Toni Wilen says, but he is referring to the emulation of an AMiGA, systems that do not need so much power, AROS 68k is not a suitable system for AMiGA in fact on a real Amiga AROS 68k is very slow and unusable.
Why do you bring real Amiga into this? I never referred real Amiga... sadly, I haven't touched a real Amiga for a long long time. And I just bring it on because once I thought that somehow in emulation 040/060 was a better option, and would like someone to have enlightened me regarding it.


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Reply #637 on: July 21, 2023, 09:36:56 PM
As said several times, I recommend using 060 because otherwise 060 libraries, device or other software cannot be used.

Usually on my emulated amiga systems I use libraries, device or other native 060 software to get advantages on system power.

On AROS One 68k, when I integrated libraries, device or other native 060 OS3 software, 060 was needed to make everything work well, now on AROS one there is no more OS3 software so you can also use 020.
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Reply #638 on: July 23, 2023, 01:25:42 AM
@miker, @AMIGASYSTEM

Can you go via Shell to directory where you have VNC client and just run ArosVNC executable (not the VNC-Client script) without any parameters. Does it crash as well?


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Reply #639 on: July 23, 2023, 01:42:52 AM
Done, it seems to work well !


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Reply #640 on: July 23, 2023, 02:50:19 AM
Quote from: AMIGASYSTEM on July 21, 2023, 09:36:56 PM
As said several times, I recommend using 060 because otherwise 060 libraries, device or other software cannot be used.
You should know that while there's some software that uses 060 libraries most actually doesn't. You should know that those libraries are made because 060 lacks some code and underperforms therefore a library is needed to take care of those issues. There's no software to my knowledge that isn't made for 020 yet it is for 060. These libraries are but a patch, but if like the author said there's no actual speed improvement from using an higher cpu, thiese patches aren't actually needed.  :)


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Reply #641 on: July 23, 2023, 03:28:58 AM
Why do you think Emulation 060 exists?

The latest versions of WINUAE have had a big change, i can assure you that my AfA One without the 060 libraries, including the MMULib, does not have the same power and speed.

Have you tried to emulate Amiga OS4 with a 020?

Have you ever had an A4000/060, my A1200 with 020 and 030 were turtles in comparison !


... Here we are OT, if you want to discuss this topic again, open a new thread
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Reply #642 on: July 24, 2023, 10:43:19 AM
@miker, @AMIGASYSTEM

Please try if this new compilation of client works for you: https://axrt.org/development/ArosVNC_20230724-01.zip

There is a bug in original client that will always prevent it from starting.

EDIT: Also try version 02: https://axrt.org/development/ArosVNC_20230724-02.zip

01 is single threaded
02 is multi-threaded like the original compilation and required thread.library
« Last Edit: July 24, 2023, 11:00:58 AM by deadwood »


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Reply #643 on: July 24, 2023, 04:01:25 PM
I tried both tracks and they seem to work fine, no Guru appeared !

On PC I used remote DeckTop, but I have no experience with VNC

If you can tell me how to use it, I can try to connect with AROS natively installed on PC !


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Reply #644 on: July 24, 2023, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: deadwood on July 24, 2023, 10:43:19 AM
@miker, @AMIGASYSTEM

Please try if this new compilation of client works for you: https://axrt.org/development/ArosVNC_20230724-01.zip

There is a bug in original client that will always prevent it from starting.

EDIT: Also try version 02: https://axrt.org/development/ArosVNC_20230724-02.zip

01 is single threaded
02 is multi-threaded like the original compilation and required thread.library

Just tried both versions - both work fine, including sending mouse and keyboard events :-)

Cheers,
Nigel.


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