AROS World Exec

Distros => AROS One => Topic started by: r-tea on May 07, 2023, 02:54:18 PM

Title: AROS One native first run
Post by: r-tea on May 07, 2023, 02:54:18 PM
After few obstacles I managed to Install AROS One on my laptop ASUS M50V.

The installation was from USB flash drive.

AROS is the ONLY OS on this machine.

And, as usual, it's the time to start many questions for configuring things and making things to work.
I will play some time and you expect questions for sure  :)
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: Amiwell on May 07, 2023, 03:12:21 PM
Can you set ATA compatibility from BIOS?
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: r-tea on May 07, 2023, 03:18:16 PM
Yes, as I already mentioned, I have 2 options there: Enhanced and Compatible
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on May 07, 2023, 03:27:32 PM

And, as usual, it's the time to start many questions for configuring things and making things to work.
I will play some time and you expect questions for sure  :)

I am glad you chose and installed AROS One, you can ask all the questions you want, AROS One is everyone's, and everyone can participate or give advice, of course within the limits of my experience !

AROS One wants to be a modern AMiGA system, for those nostalgic for old Amiga and old software there is the excellent WinUAE !
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: Amiwell on May 07, 2023, 05:12:18 PM
Yes, as I already mentioned, I have 2 options there: Enhanced and Compatible

Maybe that's the problem your laptop doesn't support ATA emulation or legacy mode
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: r-tea on May 08, 2023, 03:19:08 PM
@Amiwell
No, it's not a problem. I switched that option to "Compatible", and AROS get installed and works pretty good.

@AMIGASYSTEM
Yes. I love it because it feels like AmigaOS on a highway. [top secret mode on] IMHO MorphOS team should switch to x86.[top secret mode off]
For me personally AROS is actually AmigaOS on an open road.
The few top things that, IMHO, make Amiga unique are: configurability of almost everything (with particular focus on MUI), ram disk, screens.

Ok, as for the first run of my AROS, I wanted to make use of wifi, but with "Intel Link 5100" chip I have no chance. Am I right? I can see Intelpro100.device in Devs:networks but it doesn't fit I presume.
I know the atheros5000.device is the best (or the only one?) choice for now. Is this part replaceable in laptops? Any experience?
I can see plenty of files in DEVS:Networks. How many of them refer to wifi devices?
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: Amiwell on May 08, 2023, 04:08:26 PM
if you can change the wifi card you can take a compatible I did it
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: r-tea on May 08, 2023, 04:47:46 PM
Let's assume I can. What model of atheros should I look for? Is the 5000 number in the device's file name a part of physical card's model name?
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on May 08, 2023, 05:40:59 PM
As you can see from the attached link your "Link 5100" card is not supported, again in the link you can see all the supported WiFi Cards and the Device to use.

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_Complete_System_HCL

Concerning the speed of AROS in native mode, if you have a supported Video Card (in the link there are the supported ones), the speed increases significantly and also 3D Games will be of a speed that OS4 and MOS can only dream of, if they don't pass on x86
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: Jeff1138 on May 08, 2023, 07:21:08 PM
Hi

Take a look here as well

https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k#Supported_Chips

The question is does a mini pci-e card fit as the space left to put a card in got smaller over the years

Sorry it is hard to recommend an individual card as it is difficult to work out what chipset versions it contains, the one from netbook acer a110 or a150 works

Regards Jeff



Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: Amiwell on May 09, 2023, 04:26:06 AM
I use the model AR5006EG mini pci but my laptop is not recent, maybe in the laptop of r-tea the card is integrated the alternative could be the usb dongle netgear WG111v3
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on May 09, 2023, 04:29:59 AM
No save, netgear WG111v3 doesn't work well, now with the new core it doesn't work anymore, better replace the internal Wifi card
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: Amiwell on May 09, 2023, 05:01:09 AM
Maybe the R-Tea laptop is too recent and the board is integrated into the mainboard
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on May 09, 2023, 05:31:45 AM
If physically it doesn't go, then it could use LAN, which among other things is much faster than WiFi
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: r-tea on May 09, 2023, 06:42:55 AM
My laptop is ASUS M50V.
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on May 09, 2023, 08:38:58 AM
What is reported on en.wikibooks.org ....

Your ASUS M50V is partially compatible with AROS One v2.0, has IDE Compatible Bios, and also has Realtek LAN Network Card supported, Lan Network works well with AROS One v2.0, see screenshot.


(https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1119.0;attach=4913;image)
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: r-tea on May 09, 2023, 11:18:17 AM
Do that red color mean that Atheros AR928X don't work as well as Intel 5100?
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on May 09, 2023, 12:53:11 PM
Yes red should be what is not supported !
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: Amiwell on May 09, 2023, 01:05:53 PM
on your computer you can change the wifi card the exact abbreviation is AR5006EG or AR5007EG you can find them on ebay, the problem is not the network card of course must be supported but also the internal STACK-TCP of the system that is currently not very performing
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: r-tea on May 12, 2023, 11:29:56 AM
Guys, I went to an pc service shop and told the guy I need Atheros AR5007EG wifi module inside. Luckily he had one and replaced it. Then he turned on a wifi hot-spot in his smartphone. The wifi was open (without a password).
I configured the Network Preferences in AROS (atheros5000.device) and restarted the machine. Then run OWB and I saw google site. I was delighted  :D Then I clicked fastlinks, and it all work as well.

But in my home it don't work in whatever way. I tried open wifi, WEP, WPA. None works. The wodule is ok, because Wireless Manager shows all available networks.

Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on May 12, 2023, 12:32:59 PM
But in my home it don't work in whatever way. I tried open wifi, WEP, WPA. None works. The wodule is ok, because Wireless Manager shows all available networks.

If you are using AROS One, WiFi WEP, WPA works just fine, if with wifi hot-spot it worked, it must work, make sure you put "Network Name" and "password" well

Go to NetWork Preferences, and put back "Network Name" and "password", see screenshot (my fiber Wifi connection), reboot if necessary !

If still not working, delete all network settings, reboot and reconfigure NetWork Preferences

This is the one to delete:

- Delete folder "AROSTCP"
SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/AROSTCP

- Delete file Wireless.prefs
SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/SYS/Wireless.prefs


(https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1119.0;attach=4929;image)

Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: r-tea on May 12, 2023, 01:31:22 PM
Is WPA (in AROS):and WPA-PSK (in my router) the same?
What is the relation between Network Settings and Wireless Manager?
How to recognize (apart running e.g. OWB) the network stacki is up ord down and the internet is available?
Years back I remember MIAMI with nice gui and a lamp informing if the stack is online or not.
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on May 12, 2023, 02:29:59 PM
Were you able to connect to your network ?


To see if you are On-line you can use iConecta, I did the review here:

https://ae.amigalife.org/index.php?topic=1106.0


WPA, which stands for Wi-FiŽ Protected Access, is a data encryption for wireless LANs. It enhances the security features of WEP by using Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) to protect network access and an encryption method to protect data transmissions.

WPA is designed to be used with an 802.1X authentication server that distributes different keys to each user. However, it can also be used in a less secure "Pre-Shared Key (PSK)" mode. PSK is designed for home and small office networks where each user has the same password. WPA-PSK is also called WPA-Personal. WPA-PSK allows the Brother wireless machine to hook into the access point using the TKIP or AES encryption method. WPA2-PSK allows the Brother wireless machine to associate with the access point using the AES encryption method.
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: ncafferkey on May 12, 2023, 08:51:58 PM
Check that your router is configured to allow slower devices such as 802.11g.

If that isn't the problem, turn off network start on boot in Network prefs, reboot and run this command in the shell for debugging purposes:

C:WirelessManager atheros5000.device VERBOSE

...then post some of its output here (it won't show passwords).
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: Amiwell on May 13, 2023, 11:55:07 AM
Is WPA (in AROS):and WPA-PSK (in my router) the same?
What is the relation between Network Settings and Wireless Manager?
How to recognize (apart running e.g. OWB) the network stacki is up ord down and the internet is available?
Years back I remember MIAMI with nice gui and a lamp informing if the stack is online or not.

first select the device in the first screen in network prefs and then set the wifi network in wireless manager all routers are set to work in WPA function
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: r-tea on May 15, 2023, 05:09:04 PM
Sorry guys. Got no time recently.
An additional question: why Aros doubles WiFi networks managing? First there is "Wireless Networks" tab in the "Network Preferences" window. And then there is the "Wireless Manager" window that does the same.
So, which settings are more important?
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: Amiwell on May 15, 2023, 05:22:56 PM
yes you can add another wifi network but I've never tried to do it
Title: Re: AROS One native first run
Post by: AMIGASYSTEM on May 15, 2023, 05:24:03 PM
@r-tea

You can use either method, nothing changes, same thing you do with Windows ! if one doesn't work another possibility also.

The only difference is that "Wireless Manager" allows you to see all the provider names, and click on your network, on "Wireless Networks" you have to add by hand.