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Reply #30 on: October 02, 2021, 05:09:47 AM
I access secure sites with the previous version of odyssey you need to update certificates



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Reply #31 on: October 02, 2021, 08:30:30 AM
What is the quickest fix for the lack of apps? One word: emulators. They will buy time for natural apps to be developed. Many of the computer emulators are open source. Even shapeshifter old mac emulator would help it continue to work on. Even a gem emulator would help.  Future projects could include open source mac andriod and pc emulators, but that would be a few years down the road.

Aros has Janus-UAE and you can run in coherency mode completely transparent from the hosted system, then there exists dosbox if you want :)



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Reply #32 on: October 02, 2021, 08:38:46 AM
OWB Latest Version 16-12-2018 accesses on HTTPS even with old certificates, but videos from Youtube don't work.

OWB Version 27-03-2016 no longer accesses on HTTPS even if you update the certificates, but the videos from Youtube works

OWB Version 26-03-2016 not supported, it crashes as soon as it's started

Since September 30 there have been changes on the Web, even Chrome on Win7 can't access HTTPS sites directly, it can only do so by entering with secondary unsecured access, even Firefox allows access on this kind of sites from a secondary port but automatically.


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Reply #33 on: October 02, 2021, 09:12:35 AM
I use these two versions and upgrade the certificates present in another thread on this forum and works fine

http://archives.aros-exec.org/share/network/browser/owb-1.25.i386-aros.zip

http://archives.aros-exec.org/share/network/browser/odyssey-1.25-11.i386-aros.zip



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Reply #34 on: October 02, 2021, 10:41:54 AM
I use these two versions and upgrade the certificates present in another thread on this forum and works fine

http://archives.aros-exec.org/share/network/browser/owb-1.25.i386-aros.zip

This is the same as the one posted above i.e. 27-03-2016 and does not access HTTPS sites even if you update the certificates


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http://archives.aros-exec.org/share/network/browser/odyssey-1.25-11.i386-aros.zip

This is just an executable a bit newer than the previous one from 29.08.2016 and can access HTTPS sites, plus it also works Youtube videos, it's probably the best choice even if the newest one from 16-12-2018 is faster, in any case it's better to keep all the executables maybe in a subfolder.


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Reply #35 on: October 03, 2021, 04:53:58 AM
I use a SSD disk prices are affordable to make an upgrade to your PC



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Reply #36 on: October 03, 2021, 05:19:28 AM
What is the quickest fix for the lack of apps? One word: emulators. They will buy time for natural apps to be developed. Many of the computer emulators are open source. Even shapeshifter old mac emulator would help it continue to work on. Even a gem emulator would help.  Future projects could include open source mac andriod and pc emulators, but that would be a few years down the road.

Whats the point of AROS if we emulate or use other OS'es to cover what we dont have.

quickest fix for me is to have basic daily used apps like
--Browser (one for daily browsing)
--Email cliend (one just good one)
--DTP (One Good stable and usable)
--Graphics (One good Paint Program)
--Text Editor (one good one and we have one)
--Music tracker/player/editor (One simple good one as long as it does the job)
--Video (Player/Editor , One good one not billion)
--Clean SDK/ good development tools and guide , dont forget software comes from this area.

I mean we already have a most just maybe not all, I wish developers will focus on some needed software rather than building aros on multi arch, we have very talented coders on board and missing leadership maybe..

What is missing from API that all focuses are on aros core rather than needed software..

Whats the point of  aros if i have to use windows to browse or use email clients..

Lets Build Not Destroy...


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Reply #37 on: October 03, 2021, 05:41:10 AM
I use Aros every day there are many years that I don't use Windows and similar, I think I'm not the only one, perhaps for some users maybe it could be frustrating not to be able to access Facebook and also to some other site with Odyssey, but we must have a patient , I myself collaborating with some programmer to develop some applications because I care a lot to the future of Aros, certainly the road of emulation does not like me at all



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Reply #38 on: October 03, 2021, 08:10:32 AM
What is missing from API that all focuses are on aros core rather than needed software..

Whats the point of  aros if i have to use windows to browse or use email clients..

There are only so many hours in a day. My focus in on keeping the system running AND providing a clean and working SDK for developers like you to port and develop software :)



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Reply #39 on: October 04, 2021, 12:50:37 AM
What is the quickest fix for the lack of apps? One word: emulators. They will buy time for natural apps to be developed. Many of the computer emulators are open source. Even shapeshifter old mac emulator would help it continue to work on. Even a gem emulator would help.  Future projects could include open source mac andriod and pc emulators, but that would be a few years down the road.

Aros has Janus-UAE and you can run in coherency mode completely transparent from the hosted system, then there exists dosbox if you want :)

both these are old emulators that basicly run software from 30 years ago.  the community if it is to grow needs access access to ability to run much newer software.  Idealy something like virtual Box that would let you run even win 10 or the newest linux on the same machine. even a kvm linux running mac os 10.  this would also fix the browser problem. I meantion os 9 emulator for mac os because it;s software is about 10 years newer than old amiga os and could be a quick first easy step.



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Reply #40 on: October 04, 2021, 01:22:10 AM
In my opinion the best solution on AROS is to develop a WINE interpreter in order to run Windows Applications directly.


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Reply #41 on: October 04, 2021, 04:46:10 AM
What is the quickest fix for the lack of apps? One word: emulators. They will buy time for natural apps to be developed. Many of the computer emulators are open source. Even shapeshifter old mac emulator would help it continue to work on. Even a gem emulator would help.  Future projects could include open source mac andriod and pc emulators, but that would be a few years down the road.

Aros has Janus-UAE and you can run in coherency mode completely transparent from the hosted system, then there exists dosbox if you want :)

both these are old emulators that basicly run software from 30 years ago.  the community if it is to grow needs access access to ability to run much newer software.  Idealy something like virtual Box that would let you run even win 10 or the newest linux on the same machine. even a kvm linux running mac os 10.  this would also fix the browser problem. I meantion os 9 emulator for mac os because it;s software is about 10 years newer than old amiga os and could be a quick first easy step.

you understand your point of view but we are a small community and the remaining programmers are already worried about other things, both at the system level and for third-party applications and then only in a few could do something level, all that There is now possible thanks to a great effort of a team of programmers who now no longer exists
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Reply #42 on: October 04, 2021, 09:55:21 AM
Since Aros can be run over the top of Linux and theirs already the ability to launch Linux apps from the desktop, perhaps we reverse the problem. A distro with many Linux emulators controlled by Aros. A better clipboard would be needed. Built-in utilities to share data. Would know even add the ability to play steam games lol. This would be less work.



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Reply #43 on: October 04, 2021, 10:38:43 AM
The time that is lost in creating emulators can be invested on AROS, adding Linux libraries as happened on OS4 creates a hybrid system where fixing bugs is much more difficult.

Why complicate your life with Linux when AROS like Amiga is the most beautiful and simple system in the world, Linux has existed for 30 years and has never exceeded 2% of users, this explains how much Linux is liked in the world.


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Reply #44 on: October 04, 2021, 12:28:30 PM
Since Aros can be run over the top of Linux and theirs already the ability to launch Linux apps from the desktop, perhaps we reverse the problem. A distro with many Linux emulators controlled by Aros. A better clipboard would be needed. Built-in utilities to share data. Would know even add the ability to play steam games lol. This would be less work.

a solution so exists in the embryonic phase and it is called Arix but perhaps we are out of themselves in the thread