Any plans to replace ifconfig with ip?

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Selfes

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on: October 29, 2023, 05:32:32 PM
Hi,
I'm not sure if I'm posting in the correct place, since it's my first post here. I just installed Icaros Desktop Hosted Mode on my Debian. During the installation I noticed that the installation and run scripts use "ifconfig" for the networking part. Since it is not installed on my system I manually configured the network interface using "ip". Since many distros (including Ubuntu) consider it deprecated, are there any plans to replace them in the scripts?



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Reply #1 on: November 01, 2023, 07:38:09 PM
Hello Selfes and welcome

I'm not sure if I'm posting in the correct place, since it's my first post here.
To be honest it is a bit unclear, even for me.

Paolone (the maintainer of Icaros Desktop) acknowledged the fact that the 'old' aros-exec forum site has been discontinued (at least discontinued from the previous domain it was hosted from (ae.amigalife.org) ) but in this acknowledgment (only) refers to arosworld.org and not the new aros-exec forums (which was continued from ae.amigalife.org) andd which you just used to post your message that I am now responding to.

In case someone reads this and thinks this is all convoluted then you are correct because it is  :)


Now to your actual question...
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I just installed Icaros Desktop Hosted Mode on my Debian. During the installation I noticed that the installation and run scripts use "ifconfig" for the networking part. Since it is not installed on my system I manually configured the network interface using "ip". Since many distros (including Ubuntu) consider it deprecated, are there any plans to replace them in the scripts?
I can't speak for Paolone but I do not believe there is much priority for such things.

If you know that this was updated as you mentioned then you probably also know how the scripts need to be updated to work with the new commands/infrastructure.

You are always free to post a solution that you deem comfortable/usable so that others can use it or perhaps you have (specific) questions when you are trying to update the script(s).

fwiw: It is always easier for a maintainer to accept or integrate a working (tested) solution instead of trying to solve the problem himself  :P


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Reply #2 on: November 02, 2023, 12:09:01 AM
To be honest it is a bit unclear, even for me.

Paolone (the maintainer of Icaros Desktop) acknowledged the fact that the 'old' aros-exec forum site has been discontinued (at least discontinued from the previous domain it was hosted from (ae.amigalife.org) ) but in this acknowledgment (only) refers to arosworld.org and not the new aros-exec forums (which was continued from ae.amigalife.org) andd which you just used to post your message that I am now responding to.

In case someone reads this and thinks this is all convoluted then you are correct because it is  :)

Oh, I didn't notice the forum post  ::)

However, I also see that Paolone doesn't post in the other forum either...

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I can't speak for Paolone but I do not believe there is much priority for such things.

If you know that this was updated as you mentioned then you probably also know how the scripts need to be updated to work with the new commands/infrastructure.

You are always free to post a solution that you deem comfortable/usable so that others can use it or perhaps you have (specific) questions when you are trying to update the script(s).

fwiw: It is always easier for a maintainer to accept or integrate a working (tested) solution instead of trying to solve the problem himself  :P
I actually looked at the code and also see that it has a few older libraries (e.g. python 2.5) und netstat is used in several places like perlipc  :o

For now, I think I will rather use it in a VM...

Even so, thanks for the reply!  :)

EDIT: IcarosDesktop also doesn't have a source repo, as far as I can see...
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Reply #3 on: November 02, 2023, 05:46:47 AM
However, I also see that Paolone doesn't post in the other forum either...
He does seem to have other priorities atm. Such is life, I guess.


The reason to mention it is that I have no idea what he prefers to monitor (if any).

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Even so, thanks for the reply!  :)
You are welcome.

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EDIT: IcarosDesktop also doesn't have a source repo, as far as I can see...
The DVD/CD you downloaded /is/ the source repo, well sort of speak.

Icaros is based on AROS, which does have a source-tree see the official github or here in case looking for deadwood forked repository (based on same sources that Icaros Desktop used to use though an updated iteration).

The rest of Icaros Desktop is literally scripted and put together by Paolone (based on his and users feedback). The source of the scripts are thus literally stored on the distribution  media provided by Paolone, same goes for all the 3th party software he collected (and are stored in categorial archives used by the installer script).

Most information on how Icaros Desktop work internally and/or what inspired Icaros Desktop for some of the scripts can be found in the links in my sig pointing to the desktop manual and the wikibook.

So , yeah perhaps a bit unconventional but you can reproduce Icaros distro with downloading Icaros distro media itself  :)

regards,