Trying out AROS again

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on: October 15, 2022, 03:03:58 PM
Its been awhile. For a long time I supported and used AROS a lot.
I follow the project from time to time and if there are something interesing I bring out my trusted AROS, D520 laptop where I have everything supported. Native gfx, wireless networking etc.
What is a OS without software. I really liked the Zune software series. Zune View, Zune Fig, Zune Paint. Native software that run fast and are not foreign to the OS.
What brough up my interest this time was RNOTunes and I must say I really like it. Fast, native app. that can play most  audio formats I'm interested in. Album art and much more. Really promising.
I also feel the OS is more stable and better than ever. I write this from AROS and Odyssey web-browser.

AROS rocks!

« Last Edit: October 15, 2022, 03:34:10 PM by nikos »



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Reply #1 on: October 15, 2022, 09:46:43 PM
Its been awhile. For a long time I supported and used AROS a lot.
I follow the project from time to time and if there are something interesing I bring out my trusted AROS, D520 laptop where I have everything supported. Native gfx, wireless networking etc.
What is a OS without software. I really liked the Zune software series. Zune View, Zune Fig, Zune Paint. Native software that run fast and are not foreign to the OS.
What brough up my interest this time was RNOTunes and I must say I really like it. Fast, native app. that can play most  audio formats I'm interested in. Album art and much more. Really promising.
I also feel the OS is more stable and better than ever. I write this from AROS and Odyssey web-browser.

AROS rocks!

Hi nikos,

Good to see you around here again! I am a big fan of your work with AspireOS. I wish it was updated with the latest additions from deadwood's work.
Funny that you mentioned the D520. A few days ago, I also pulled my Dell D520 out of the closet after many months of no use. Sadly, unlike you, I am not having a pleasant experience with it.

I had replaced the wifi card as you had suggested a year ago with an Atheros chip supported by the atheros5000.device driver and Wireless network works.
However, after I power it and keep it off for a day, it doesn't boot completely. Mouse pointer shows but nothing else. If I keep trying, eventually it boots but not guaranteed all the times.

When I manage to make it boot, I experience lock-ups and occasional crashes from different applications. If I do not select "Start networking during system boot" it seems to boot fine every time.
I had your distro AspireOS installed but upgrading to Icaros 2.3 or AROS One 1.8 does the same exact thing, network issues, crashes and lock-ups. That's the reason why I had stashed it away in the closet for so long.
One thing that pops to mind is that I have a 4GB RAM. I recall AROS being limited to 1GB of RAM, is that still the case? Could the 4GB be a negative impact on the overall performance?



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Reply #2 on: October 16, 2022, 12:49:39 AM
i have acer aspire 5630 whit nvidia 7300 go 128 Gb of ram aros run fine, only changed the wifi adapter



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Reply #3 on: October 16, 2022, 01:58:26 AM
Glad to see you are still around Nikos :)



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Reply #4 on: October 16, 2022, 02:03:39 AM
nikos I didn't know you were the author of AspireOS, if you remember I in the past used your Distribution, on your site there are still my screenshots (I was the "Amiga" user at the time.) :)

https://sites.google.com/site/arosaspireone/videos



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Reply #5 on: October 16, 2022, 04:45:09 AM
Glad to see you are still around Nikos :)

Likewise Deadwood :)
You are keeping the dream alive.
I seen you did a lot of fixes updates to ScaleOS. About time to try that out :)


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Reply #6 on: October 16, 2022, 04:48:29 AM
nikos I didn't know you were the author of AspireOS, if you remember I in the past used your Distribution, on your site there are still my screenshots (I was the "Amiga" user at the time.) :)

https://sites.google.com/site/arosaspireone/videos

Ok, cool :)
It is a long time since I updated AspireOS. It is better people use your Distribution.
My idea was to provide a distribution for specific hardware with well tested software.



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Reply #7 on: October 16, 2022, 04:53:00 AM
i have acer aspire 5630 whit nvidia 7300 go 128 Gb of ram aros run fine, only changed the wifi adapter

That must be a great laptop. The native gfx adapter in Dell 520 is IntelGMA 945 I think it is called. Quite weak but still works fine. So nice with 2D and 3D acceleration. It is in the spirit of the Commodore  to have custom chips for GFX. I also  changed the wi-fi chip to Atheros. Even the CPU I changed from 1.6GHz to 2GHz Intel core2duo. It is a very fast and nice AROS experience to use this laptop.


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Reply #8 on: October 16, 2022, 05:19:34 AM
Its been awhile. For a long time I supported and used AROS a lot.
I follow the project from time to time and if there are something interesing I bring out my trusted AROS, D520 laptop where I have everything supported. Native gfx, wireless networking etc.
What is a OS without software. I really liked the Zune software series. Zune View, Zune Fig, Zune Paint. Native software that run fast and are not foreign to the OS.
What brough up my interest this time was RNOTunes and I must say I really like it. Fast, native app. that can play most  audio formats I'm interested in. Album art and much more. Really promising.
I also feel the OS is more stable and better than ever. I write this from AROS and Odyssey web-browser.

AROS rocks!

Hi Nikos, great to see you are enjoying AROS again   :D


When I manage to make it boot, I experience lock-ups and occasional crashes from different applications. If I do not select "Start networking during system boot" it seems to boot fine every time.
I had your distro AspireOS installed but upgrading to Icaros 2.3 or AROS One 1.8 does the same exact thing, network issues, crashes and lock-ups. That's the reason why I had stashed it away in the closet for so long.
One thing that pops to mind is that I have a 4GB RAM. I recall AROS being limited to 1GB of RAM, is that still the case? Could the 4GB be a negative impact on the overall performance?



This does sound like a hardware issue - could it be as simple as a dodgy network card? If it runs fine without network that would seem to be the cause. By the way, maximum ram is I think 2 GB, which works fine in my machines (not a Dell but I don't think that will make a difference)

Cheers,
Nigel.



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Reply #9 on: October 16, 2022, 06:14:00 AM
Its been awhile. For a long time I supported and used AROS a lot.
I follow the project from time to time and if there are something interesing I bring out my trusted AROS, D520 laptop where I have everything supported. Native gfx, wireless networking etc.
What is a OS without software. I really liked the Zune software series. Zune View, Zune Fig, Zune Paint. Native software that run fast and are not foreign to the OS.
What brough up my interest this time was RNOTunes and I must say I really like it. Fast, native app. that can play most  audio formats I'm interested in. Album art and much more. Really promising.
I also feel the OS is more stable and better than ever. I write this from AROS and Odyssey web-browser.

AROS rocks!

Hi nikos,

Good to see you around here again! I am a big fan of your work with AspireOS. I wish it was updated with the latest additions from deadwood's work.
Funny that you mentioned the D520. A few days ago, I also pulled my Dell D520 out of the closet after many months of no use. Sadly, unlike you, I am not having a pleasant experience with it.

I had replaced the wifi card as you had suggested a year ago with an Atheros chip supported by the atheros5000.device driver and Wireless network works.
However, after I power it and keep it off for a day, it doesn't boot completely. Mouse pointer shows but nothing else. If I keep trying, eventually it boots but not guaranteed all the times.

When I manage to make it boot, I experience lock-ups and occasional crashes from different applications. If I do not select "Start networking during system boot" it seems to boot fine every time.
I had your distro AspireOS installed but upgrading to Icaros 2.3 or AROS One 1.8 does the same exact thing, network issues, crashes and lock-ups. That's the reason why I had stashed it away in the closet for so long.
One thing that pops to mind is that I have a 4GB RAM. I recall AROS being limited to 1GB of RAM, is that still the case? Could the 4GB be a negative impact on the overall performance?

Hi Amigamia,

This is not normal. I start network during system boot without any problems on my D520.Have you tried other OS on the same machine? Could you boot some Linux distribution from CD or DVD or USB storage device and see how it goes?
First thing I would do is the check if the card on your machine. Is the antheenas connected properly?
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Reply #10 on: October 16, 2022, 06:18:04 AM
Its been awhile. For a long time I supported and used AROS a lot.
I follow the project from time to time and if there are something interesing I bring out my trusted AROS, D520 laptop where I have everything supported. Native gfx, wireless networking etc.
What is a OS without software. I really liked the Zune software series. Zune View, Zune Fig, Zune Paint. Native software that run fast and are not foreign to the OS.
What brough up my interest this time was RNOTunes and I must say I really like it. Fast, native app. that can play most  audio formats I'm interested in. Album art and much more. Really promising.
I also feel the OS is more stable and better than ever. I write this from AROS and Odyssey web-browser.

AROS rocks!

Hi Nikos, great to see you are enjoying AROS again   :D


When I manage to make it boot, I experience lock-ups and occasional crashes from different applications. If I do not select "Start networking during system boot" it seems to boot fine every time.
I had your distro AspireOS installed but upgrading to Icaros 2.3 or AROS One 1.8 does the same exact thing, network issues, crashes and lock-ups. That's the reason why I had stashed it away in the closet for so long.
One thing that pops to mind is that I have a 4GB RAM. I recall AROS being limited to 1GB of RAM, is that still the case? Could the 4GB be a negative impact on the overall performance?



This does sound like a hardware issue - could it be as simple as a dodgy network card? If it runs fine without network that would seem to be the cause. By the way, maximum ram is I think 2 GB, which works fine in my machines (not a Dell but I don't think that will make a difference)

Cheers,
Nigel.

Hi Nigel :)

For sure sounds like a hardware issue. 4GB is good with 32-bit OS like AROS i386 version. If you want more you need 64-bit compatible CPU and OS.


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Reply #11 on: October 16, 2022, 07:47:06 AM

Hi Amigamia,

This is not normal. I start network during system boot without any problems on my D520.Have you tried other OS on the same machine? Could you boot some Linux distribution from CD or DVD or USB storage device and see how it goes?
First thing I would do is the check if the card on your machine. Is the antheenas connected properly?

So far the Wireless network seems to be the culprit and trying a Linux distro may be a good indicator if it is the card or the software. I'll check the antennas but as I mentioned, the it does work, I can browse with OWB etc. etc. but the experience degrades shortly after I am connected. I'll start with Linux since it is the cheapest of the troubleshooting steps...

Thank you and welcome back!

You should update AspireOS with the latest updates from deadwood and bring it to modern times  ;)


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Reply #12 on: October 16, 2022, 10:02:15 AM
Hi nikos,

Good to see you around here again! I am a big fan of your work with AspireOS. I wish it was updated with the latest additions from deadwood's work.
Funny that you mentioned the D520. A few days ago, I also pulled my Dell D520 out of the closet after many months of no use. Sadly, unlike you, I am not having a pleasant experience with it.

I had replaced the wifi card as you had suggested a year ago with an Atheros chip supported by the atheros5000.device driver and Wireless network works.
However, after I power it and keep it off for a day, it doesn't boot completely. Mouse pointer shows but nothing else. If I keep trying, eventually it boots but not guaranteed all the times.

When I manage to make it boot, I experience lock-ups and occasional crashes from different applications. If I do not select "Start networking during system boot" it seems to boot fine every time.
I had your distro AspireOS installed but upgrading to Icaros 2.3 or AROS One 1.8 does the same exact thing, network issues, crashes and lock-ups. That's the reason why I had stashed it away in the closet for so long.
One thing that pops to mind is that I have a 4GB RAM. I recall AROS being limited to 1GB of RAM, is that still the case? Could the 4GB be a negative impact on the overall performance?

the wifi card that work fine is AR5006EG/AR5007EG



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Reply #14 on: October 17, 2022, 11:13:09 AM
i don't know amigamia