AROS World Exec
General => General Chat => Topic started by: nikos on October 15, 2022, 03:03:58 PM
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Its been awhile. For a long time I supported and used AROS a lot.
I follow the project from time to time and if there are something interesing I bring out my trusted AROS, D520 laptop where I have everything supported. Native gfx, wireless networking etc.
What is a OS without software. I really liked the Zune software series. Zune View, Zune Fig, Zune Paint. Native software that run fast and are not foreign to the OS.
What brough up my interest this time was RNOTunes and I must say I really like it. Fast, native app. that can play most audio formats I'm interested in. Album art and much more. Really promising.
I also feel the OS is more stable and better than ever. I write this from AROS and Odyssey web-browser.
AROS rocks!
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Its been awhile. For a long time I supported and used AROS a lot.
I follow the project from time to time and if there are something interesing I bring out my trusted AROS, D520 laptop where I have everything supported. Native gfx, wireless networking etc.
What is a OS without software. I really liked the Zune software series. Zune View, Zune Fig, Zune Paint. Native software that run fast and are not foreign to the OS.
What brough up my interest this time was RNOTunes and I must say I really like it. Fast, native app. that can play most audio formats I'm interested in. Album art and much more. Really promising.
I also feel the OS is more stable and better than ever. I write this from AROS and Odyssey web-browser.
AROS rocks!
Hi nikos,
Good to see you around here again! I am a big fan of your work with AspireOS. I wish it was updated with the latest additions from deadwood's work.
Funny that you mentioned the D520. A few days ago, I also pulled my Dell D520 out of the closet after many months of no use. Sadly, unlike you, I am not having a pleasant experience with it.
I had replaced the wifi card as you had suggested a year ago with an Atheros chip supported by the atheros5000.device driver and Wireless network works.
However, after I power it and keep it off for a day, it doesn't boot completely. Mouse pointer shows but nothing else. If I keep trying, eventually it boots but not guaranteed all the times.
When I manage to make it boot, I experience lock-ups and occasional crashes from different applications. If I do not select "Start networking during system boot" it seems to boot fine every time.
I had your distro AspireOS installed but upgrading to Icaros 2.3 or AROS One 1.8 does the same exact thing, network issues, crashes and lock-ups. That's the reason why I had stashed it away in the closet for so long.
One thing that pops to mind is that I have a 4GB RAM. I recall AROS being limited to 1GB of RAM, is that still the case? Could the 4GB be a negative impact on the overall performance?
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i have acer aspire 5630 whit nvidia 7300 go 128 Gb of ram aros run fine, only changed the wifi adapter
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Glad to see you are still around Nikos :)
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nikos I didn't know you were the author of AspireOS, if you remember I in the past used your Distribution, on your site there are still my screenshots (I was the "Amiga" user at the time.) :)
https://sites.google.com/site/arosaspireone/videos
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Glad to see you are still around Nikos :)
Likewise Deadwood :)
You are keeping the dream alive.
I seen you did a lot of fixes updates to ScaleOS. About time to try that out :)
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nikos I didn't know you were the author of AspireOS, if you remember I in the past used your Distribution, on your site there are still my screenshots (I was the "Amiga" user at the time.) :)
https://sites.google.com/site/arosaspireone/videos
Ok, cool :)
It is a long time since I updated AspireOS. It is better people use your Distribution.
My idea was to provide a distribution for specific hardware with well tested software.
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i have acer aspire 5630 whit nvidia 7300 go 128 Gb of ram aros run fine, only changed the wifi adapter
That must be a great laptop. The native gfx adapter in Dell 520 is IntelGMA 945 I think it is called. Quite weak but still works fine. So nice with 2D and 3D acceleration. It is in the spirit of the Commodore to have custom chips for GFX. I also changed the wi-fi chip to Atheros. Even the CPU I changed from 1.6GHz to 2GHz Intel core2duo. It is a very fast and nice AROS experience to use this laptop.
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Its been awhile. For a long time I supported and used AROS a lot.
I follow the project from time to time and if there are something interesing I bring out my trusted AROS, D520 laptop where I have everything supported. Native gfx, wireless networking etc.
What is a OS without software. I really liked the Zune software series. Zune View, Zune Fig, Zune Paint. Native software that run fast and are not foreign to the OS.
What brough up my interest this time was RNOTunes and I must say I really like it. Fast, native app. that can play most audio formats I'm interested in. Album art and much more. Really promising.
I also feel the OS is more stable and better than ever. I write this from AROS and Odyssey web-browser.
AROS rocks!
Hi Nikos, great to see you are enjoying AROS again :D
When I manage to make it boot, I experience lock-ups and occasional crashes from different applications. If I do not select "Start networking during system boot" it seems to boot fine every time.
I had your distro AspireOS installed but upgrading to Icaros 2.3 or AROS One 1.8 does the same exact thing, network issues, crashes and lock-ups. That's the reason why I had stashed it away in the closet for so long.
One thing that pops to mind is that I have a 4GB RAM. I recall AROS being limited to 1GB of RAM, is that still the case? Could the 4GB be a negative impact on the overall performance?
This does sound like a hardware issue - could it be as simple as a dodgy network card? If it runs fine without network that would seem to be the cause. By the way, maximum ram is I think 2 GB, which works fine in my machines (not a Dell but I don't think that will make a difference)
Cheers,
Nigel.
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Its been awhile. For a long time I supported and used AROS a lot.
I follow the project from time to time and if there are something interesing I bring out my trusted AROS, D520 laptop where I have everything supported. Native gfx, wireless networking etc.
What is a OS without software. I really liked the Zune software series. Zune View, Zune Fig, Zune Paint. Native software that run fast and are not foreign to the OS.
What brough up my interest this time was RNOTunes and I must say I really like it. Fast, native app. that can play most audio formats I'm interested in. Album art and much more. Really promising.
I also feel the OS is more stable and better than ever. I write this from AROS and Odyssey web-browser.
AROS rocks!
Hi nikos,
Good to see you around here again! I am a big fan of your work with AspireOS. I wish it was updated with the latest additions from deadwood's work.
Funny that you mentioned the D520. A few days ago, I also pulled my Dell D520 out of the closet after many months of no use. Sadly, unlike you, I am not having a pleasant experience with it.
I had replaced the wifi card as you had suggested a year ago with an Atheros chip supported by the atheros5000.device driver and Wireless network works.
However, after I power it and keep it off for a day, it doesn't boot completely. Mouse pointer shows but nothing else. If I keep trying, eventually it boots but not guaranteed all the times.
When I manage to make it boot, I experience lock-ups and occasional crashes from different applications. If I do not select "Start networking during system boot" it seems to boot fine every time.
I had your distro AspireOS installed but upgrading to Icaros 2.3 or AROS One 1.8 does the same exact thing, network issues, crashes and lock-ups. That's the reason why I had stashed it away in the closet for so long.
One thing that pops to mind is that I have a 4GB RAM. I recall AROS being limited to 1GB of RAM, is that still the case? Could the 4GB be a negative impact on the overall performance?
Hi Amigamia,
This is not normal. I start network during system boot without any problems on my D520.Have you tried other OS on the same machine? Could you boot some Linux distribution from CD or DVD or USB storage device and see how it goes?
First thing I would do is the check if the card on your machine. Is the antheenas connected properly?
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Its been awhile. For a long time I supported and used AROS a lot.
I follow the project from time to time and if there are something interesing I bring out my trusted AROS, D520 laptop where I have everything supported. Native gfx, wireless networking etc.
What is a OS without software. I really liked the Zune software series. Zune View, Zune Fig, Zune Paint. Native software that run fast and are not foreign to the OS.
What brough up my interest this time was RNOTunes and I must say I really like it. Fast, native app. that can play most audio formats I'm interested in. Album art and much more. Really promising.
I also feel the OS is more stable and better than ever. I write this from AROS and Odyssey web-browser.
AROS rocks!
Hi Nikos, great to see you are enjoying AROS again :D
When I manage to make it boot, I experience lock-ups and occasional crashes from different applications. If I do not select "Start networking during system boot" it seems to boot fine every time.
I had your distro AspireOS installed but upgrading to Icaros 2.3 or AROS One 1.8 does the same exact thing, network issues, crashes and lock-ups. That's the reason why I had stashed it away in the closet for so long.
One thing that pops to mind is that I have a 4GB RAM. I recall AROS being limited to 1GB of RAM, is that still the case? Could the 4GB be a negative impact on the overall performance?
This does sound like a hardware issue - could it be as simple as a dodgy network card? If it runs fine without network that would seem to be the cause. By the way, maximum ram is I think 2 GB, which works fine in my machines (not a Dell but I don't think that will make a difference)
Cheers,
Nigel.
Hi Nigel :)
For sure sounds like a hardware issue. 4GB is good with 32-bit OS like AROS i386 version. If you want more you need 64-bit compatible CPU and OS.
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Hi Amigamia,
This is not normal. I start network during system boot without any problems on my D520.Have you tried other OS on the same machine? Could you boot some Linux distribution from CD or DVD or USB storage device and see how it goes?
First thing I would do is the check if the card on your machine. Is the antheenas connected properly?
So far the Wireless network seems to be the culprit and trying a Linux distro may be a good indicator if it is the card or the software. I'll check the antennas but as I mentioned, the it does work, I can browse with OWB etc. etc. but the experience degrades shortly after I am connected. I'll start with Linux since it is the cheapest of the troubleshooting steps...
Thank you and welcome back!
You should update AspireOS with the latest updates from deadwood and bring it to modern times ;)
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Hi nikos,
Good to see you around here again! I am a big fan of your work with AspireOS. I wish it was updated with the latest additions from deadwood's work.
Funny that you mentioned the D520. A few days ago, I also pulled my Dell D520 out of the closet after many months of no use. Sadly, unlike you, I am not having a pleasant experience with it.
I had replaced the wifi card as you had suggested a year ago with an Atheros chip supported by the atheros5000.device driver and Wireless network works.
However, after I power it and keep it off for a day, it doesn't boot completely. Mouse pointer shows but nothing else. If I keep trying, eventually it boots but not guaranteed all the times.
When I manage to make it boot, I experience lock-ups and occasional crashes from different applications. If I do not select "Start networking during system boot" it seems to boot fine every time.
I had your distro AspireOS installed but upgrading to Icaros 2.3 or AROS One 1.8 does the same exact thing, network issues, crashes and lock-ups. That's the reason why I had stashed it away in the closet for so long.
One thing that pops to mind is that I have a 4GB RAM. I recall AROS being limited to 1GB of RAM, is that still the case? Could the 4GB be a negative impact on the overall performance?
the wifi card that work fine is AR5006EG/AR5007EG
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the wifi card that work fine is AR5006EG/AR5007EG
It's an AR5BXB63 from Toshiba
https://www.ebay.es/itm/K000051000-Toshiba-PA3613U-1MPC-Askey-ATH-AR5BXB63-Mini-PCI-Express-Wireless-/382801835176 (https://www.ebay.es/itm/K000051000-Toshiba-PA3613U-1MPC-Askey-ATH-AR5BXB63-Mini-PCI-Express-Wireless-/382801835176)
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i don't know amigamia
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https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_Network_support
Its on the list :)
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@Amigamia
I dont recall AROS ever having a 1GB RAM limit.
It supports 3GB RAM for 32bit version, and that's not including VRAM.
My AROS box is an i7-4790k overclocked to 4.58ghz with 4GB of ddr3@2250mhz (2x2133mhz modules, but the oveclock on cpu also overclocks the ram) and a 1GB gtx275 and I end up with 3GB of usable system RAM. This doesnt change even when swapping to a 512MB card, so it suggests the system is limited to 3GB RAM and that I dont just lose a full GB because of VRAM.
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@Amigamia
I dont recall AROS ever having a 1GB RAM limit.
It supports 3GB RAM for 32bit version, and that's not including VRAM.
My AROS box is an i7-4790k overclocked to 4.58ghz with 4GB of ddr3@2250mhz (2x2133mhz modules, but the oveclock on cpu also overclocks the ram) and a 1GB gtx275 and I end up with 3GB of usable system RAM. This doesnt change even when swapping to a 512MB card, so it suggests the system is limited to 3GB RAM and that I dont just lose a full GB because of VRAM.
Perhaps I misspoke when I said "limit". I think it was more of a problematic situation where if the RAM was more than 1GB, the OS would become unstable. However, this dates back many years ago and I see it's not the case anymore. I think I may have identified the issue to a faulty network card because under Linux it refuses to connect to my WiFi despite the fact that it is available as Wifi Card and drivers are loaded. I ordered a new one off of Ebay. This "new" one was in an Aspire A150 and it's the same chipset. We shall see.
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I have problems about my two Acer the driver atheros perhaps suffers from some bugs, when I work my computer is blocked
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I have problems about my two Acer the driver atheros perhaps suffers from some bugs, when I work my computer is blocked
Be sure to have the right model. My Atheros chip is working perfect. I changed the WiFi chip in my DELL D520.
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Just a thought,
But maybe you're running a 1G partition.
Which might be one channel devoted. It
could be That 16GB has 12GB registered.
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Just a thought,
But maybe you're running a 1G partition.
Which might be one channel devoted. It
could be That 16GB has 12GB registered.
I am sorry I am not sure I understand what you mean here but if you are referring to the partitions on the hard drive, they are 10GB DH0 and 30GB DH1. Partitions are not a problem here.
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I have problems about my two Acer the driver atheros perhaps suffers from some bugs, when I work my computer is blocked
Be sure to have the right model. My Atheros chip is working perfect. I changed the WiFi chip in my DELL D520.
I have to better control my configuration, @amigamia i have 3,40 Gb o memory avaible on my desktop pc
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It's more of a word fork,
Limiting Direct address space, at 32 bit there should be 4.3Gb.
Memory Mapped I/O is taking up the remaining directories. So
Aros has the same bounds as other distros and I guess the 64
bit mode would be standard upgrade path.
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I have problems about my two Acer the driver atheros perhaps suffers from some bugs, when I work my computer is blocked
Be sure to have the right model. My Atheros chip is working perfect. I changed the WiFi chip in my DELL D520.
Well mystery solved!! I received the new atheros wifi and to my surprise, while not causing the usual lock ups, it wasn't connecting to Wifi. Nothing would work until I installed MX Linux and a message was shown next to the Wifi card (WiFi is disabled by hardware switch). A quick google search pointed to a bios setting to turn on the Wifi? I had never seen that but sure enough, it was in my bios. Set the "Wireless Hotkey" to none and AROS is finally connected. I haven't tested the old card to see if that was the problem all along but I don't want to rock the boat since I got all working (Video, Audio, Network) FINALLY!!!
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@amigamia
Great! Have fun! ;D
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i love my tiny acer aspire one, @nikos the problem of my computer is icaros my distribution works fine